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From: Zhao Zhili <quinkblack@foxmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] clarifying the TC conflict of interest rule
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 22:52:50 +0800
Message-ID: <tencent_479D02E0025AA434EF804234AD3FB956C909@qq.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5110ad53-09ab-4980-acb9-6f1b2f658e43@gyani.pro>


> 在 2024年2月23日,下午7:26,Gyan Doshi <ffmpeg@gyani.pro> 写道:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2024-02-23 01:26 pm, Nicolas George wrote:
>> Anton Khirnov (12024-02-22):
>>> In my updated proposal, based on comments by Niklas and Rémi, I'm
>>> leaving it up to the TC member in question, based on the assumption that
>>> TC members are honest.
>>> 
>>> A "stronger" version could conceivably leave it to CC to decide
>>> ambiguous cases. Feel free to propose such a version if you prefer it.
>> Your version does nothing to address the issue of the current situation,
>> where the contributor who has to raise an issue in front of the TC does
>> not trust one member of the TC to be unbiased on this issue.
> 
> Just to be clear, that's not my basis.
> 
> I said,
> 
> "As a TC member who is part of the disagreement, I believe your participation is recused."
> 
> based on the existing rule,
> 
> "If the disagreement involves a member of the TC, that member should recuse themselves from the decision"

I propose a new method that, instead of recuse TC members, let the author take part in the vote, to make it symmetric.

> 
> Disagreement implies the existence of opposing sides, so discussion members from both sides are barred from the TC proceedings.
> The wiggle room in interpretation is over whether 'involves' captures all participants, including minor ones, or just the principal interlocutors.
> Note that the rule says nothing about patch authorship or asymmetry in its application.
> 
> Anton's original disagreement, as I understand it, is about the propriety of the rule i.e. he believes that pre-existing public opposition (or agreement) on the issue should not bar a TC member. That's a disagreement with the rule, not with its interpretation.
> 
> Regards,
> Gyan
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-23 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-20  8:22 Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20  8:50 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20  9:12   ` Marton Balint
2024-02-20  9:21     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20 19:32       ` Marton Balint
2024-02-22 21:34         ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20 10:01   ` Gyan Doshi
2024-02-20 11:09     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-22  6:50       ` Gyan Doshi
2024-02-22 21:21         ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23  7:56           ` Nicolas George
2024-02-23 10:56             ` Gyan Doshi
2024-02-23 14:18               ` Nicolas George
2024-02-23 14:52               ` Zhao Zhili [this message]
2024-02-23 16:05                 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23 19:36             ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-02-26 16:33               ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-26 18:12                 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-02-26 19:17                   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-26 19:48                     ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-02-26 20:02                       ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-26 20:30                       ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-02-26 20:44               ` Nicolas George
2024-02-20 20:50   ` Niklas Haas
2024-02-22 21:14     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23 23:27       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-24 11:05         ` Paul B Mahol
2024-02-26 16:52         ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-26 22:47           ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-27  7:20             ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-27 16:55               ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-01 16:50                 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20 14:01 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-20 14:18   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-02-20 16:10   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20 20:41     ` Michael Niedermayer
     [not found]       ` <3C1074B4-096B-4806-BFB0-9D491E148C48@cosmin.at>
2024-02-20 21:12         ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-02-20 21:51           ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-22 21:54             ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23 14:25               ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-20 16:07 ` Nicolas George
2024-02-20 19:57 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-02-22 21:16   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23 14:00 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-23 14:15   ` Nicolas George
2024-02-23 16:07   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-01 17:33 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-02  5:37   ` Gyan Doshi
2024-03-02 19:01     ` Ronald S. Bultje
     [not found]       ` <3EB2D263-CAB5-4096-A061-D880D4BE95F6@cosmin.at>
2024-03-02 19:08         ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-03-03  1:34     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-03  7:23       ` Gyan Doshi
2024-03-03  2:49   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-03 21:57     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-03 23:36       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-03 23:56         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-05 18:38           ` Niklas Haas
2024-03-05 19:02           ` Nicolas George
2024-03-04 21:15         ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-05  2:36           ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-05 10:23             ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-04  0:57     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-04  9:45       ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-03-05  2:50         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-05 10:27           ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-06 23:25             ` Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel
2024-03-07  3:37               ` Zhao Zhili
2024-03-07 14:01               ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-03-08 13:16                 ` Paul B Mahol
2024-03-05 12:44           ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-03-06  2:06             ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-22 12:52   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-22 13:01     ` Nicolas George
2024-03-22 13:05     ` Gyan Doshi
2024-03-25  9:41       ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-25 12:10         ` Gyan Doshi
2024-03-25 14:49           ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-24  2:21     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-24 11:40       ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-24 23:44         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-25  9:44           ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-26  8:20   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-26 22:14     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-29 11:39     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-29 19:52       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-01 11:16 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-04-01 12:20   ` Gyan Doshi
2024-04-01 13:07     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-04-01 14:59   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-01 15:46     ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-01 15:41   ` Paul B Mahol

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