Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization work in progress draft v2

[Zhao Zhili <quinkblack-at-foxmail.com@ffmpeg.org>]

> On Feb 1, 2025, at 08:49, Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc> wrote:
> 
> Hi James
> 
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 12:44:50PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
>> On 1/31/2025 11:58 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
>>> Niklas Haas (12025-01-30):
> [...]
>>> On the other hand, I believe this whole plan is a bad idea.
>> Yes, it is a bad idea. We have had the current system in place for about
>> five years now, and besides one or two CC assemblages being inefficient, it
> 
> Do you remember this suggested addition to the FAQ ?
> https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2025-January/338186.html
> 

The proposal treat every GA member as suspect, and GA members with daily jobs guilty.

The community should be based on trust and everyone should be trust equally, unless
he/she did something not worth the trust. The 20 patches threshold for GA is a prove
of basic understanding of the project and the willingness to participate, not means
someone with more patches has more weight when vote on community activities.

It’s dangerous to fix the vulnerability in the GA by make GA totally under control, which
makes the concept of GA useless. Vote doesn't means truth, it’s a method of feedback
control. Open loop control without feedback works for simple system, it’s not reliable
and sustainable for complex system.Trust every GA members unless it is proven that
someone has been bribed. FFmpeg project is invaluable and I cherish my right to
vote, but I don’t believe there is anyone want to buy the right to vote.

> It seems you dont remember it even though this was posted just a few days ago
> I knew this is needed to be put in the FAQ ;(
> 
> 
>> has worked. Changing it now because one person was unhappy with a CC (That
> 
> This is a false statement. Iam not suggesting a change to the GA because of one CC
> iam suggesting a change because it is vulnerable to an attack.
> 
> (The CC isnt even fixed by this, i think the concept of a CC elected out of a
> community thats full of mutual hate is a bad idea)
> 
> But back to the topic, what do you suggest to fix the vulerability in the GA ?
> Or you dont care?
> 
> thx
> 
> [...]
> 
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> Michael     GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB
> 
> If you drop bombs on a foreign country and kill a hundred thousand
> innocent people, expect your government to call the consequence
> "unprovoked inhuman terrorist attacks" and use it to justify dropping
> more bombs and killing more people. The technology changed, the idea is old.
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