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From: Zhao Zhili <quinkblack@foxmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH WIP 0/9] Refactor DNN
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 19:40:09 +0800
Message-ID: <tencent_05560B9DAAE0AA5A5A348D80F834613EF909@qq.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH7PR11MB5957D12FA1C5056A6717FC69F11B2@PH7PR11MB5957.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>



> On Apr 29, 2024, at 18:29, Guo, Yejun <yejun.guo-at-intel.com@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org> On Behalf Of Zhao
>> Zhili
>> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2024 6:55 PM
>> To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-
>> devel@ffmpeg.org>
>> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH WIP 0/9] Refactor DNN
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2024, at 18:34, Guo, Yejun <yejun.guo-at-
>> intel.com@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org
>>>> <mailto:ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org>> On Behalf Of Zhao Zhili
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2024 12:42 AM
>>>> To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org <mailto:ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
>>>> Cc: Zhao Zhili <zhilizhao@tencent.com <mailto:zhilizhao@tencent.com>>
>>>> Subject: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH WIP 0/9] Refactor DNN
>>>> 
>>>> From: Zhao Zhili <zhilizhao@tencent.com>
>>>> 
>>>> During the refactor progress, I have found some serious issues, which
>>>> is not resolved by the patchset:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Tensorflow backend is broken.
>>>> 
>>>> I think it doesn't work since 2021 at least. For example, it destroy
>>>> a thread and create a new thread for each frame, and it destroy an
>>>> invalid thread at the first
>>>> frame:
>>> 
>>> It works from the day that code is merged, till today. It is by design
>>> to keep the code simplicity by using the feature that pthread_join
>>> accepts a parameter that is not a joinable thread.
>>> 
>>> Please share more info if you experienced a real case that it does not work.
>> 
>> It will abort if ASSERT_LEVEL > 1.
>> 
>> #define ASSERT_PTHREAD_ABORT(func, ret) do {                            \
>>    char errbuf[AV_ERROR_MAX_STRING_SIZE] = "";                         \
>>    av_log(NULL, AV_LOG_FATAL, AV_STRINGIFY(func)                       \
>>           " failed with error: %s\n",                                  \
>>           av_make_error_string(errbuf, AV_ERROR_MAX_STRING_SIZE,       \
>>                                AVERROR(ret)));                         \
>>    abort();                                                            \
>> } while (0)
>> 
>> I think the check is there just to prevent call pthread_join(0, &ptr) by accident,
>> so we shouldn’t do that on purpose.
>> 
> Nice catch with configure assert level > 1, will fix, and patch also welcome, thanks.

If I read the code correctly, it destroy a thread and create a new thread for each
frame. I think this “async” mode isn’t common in ffmpeg’s design. Create new thread
for each frame can be heavy on some platforms. We use slice threading to improve
parallel, and thread with command queue to improve throughput. In this case with
tensorflow do the heavy lift, if it doesn’t support async operation, simple synchronous
operation with tensorflow backend should be find. The “async” mode is unnecessary
and use more resource  over the benefit it provides.

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-29 11:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-27 16:41 Zhao Zhili
2024-04-28 10:34 ` Guo, Yejun
2024-04-28 10:55   ` Zhao Zhili
2024-04-28 10:58     ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-28 11:21       ` Zhao Zhili
2024-04-29  3:59         ` Chen, Wenbin
2024-04-29 10:29     ` Guo, Yejun
2024-04-29 11:40       ` Zhao Zhili [this message]
2024-04-30  2:55         ` Chen, Wenbin
2024-04-30 14:07           ` Guo, Yejun

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