From: James Almer via ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
Cc: James Almer <jamrial@gmail.com>
Subject: [FFmpeg-devel] Re: [PATCH] av1_in_ts_v2 (PR #21307)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:30:52 -0300
Message-ID: <f73e242d-c3a9-4fdb-be3b-8b706495f411@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPYFPM0nqWZus2bsMaV_qXA20U=NJbtkhPtyQ4db18=siD7EcA@mail.gmail.com>
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On 1/7/2026 10:25 AM, Christophe Gisquet via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> Le dim. 28 déc. 2025, 19:46, Jun Zhao via ffmpeg-devel <
> ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> a écrit :
>
>> PR #21307 opened by Jun Zhao (mypopydev)
>> URL: https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/21307
>> Patch URL: https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/21307.patch
>>
>> This patch series V2 adds support for carrying AV1 video streams in MPEG-2
>> Transport Stream
>> containers, following the AOM "Carriage of AV1 in MPEG-2 TS" specification.
>>
>> Key Features
>>
>> - MPEG-TS Muxer: Converts AV1 from Section 5 (low overhead) format to
>> start code format,
>> where each OBU is prefixed with a 0x000001 start code. Includes
>> Registration Descriptor ('AV01')
>> and AV1 Video Descriptor (0x80) in PMT.
>> - MPEG-TS Demuxer: Identifies AV1 streams by stream_type 0x06 (private
>> data) and
>> Registration Descriptor. Outputs AV1 data in start code format.
>> - av1_tstosection5 BSF: Converts AV1 from MPEG-TS start code format back
>> to Section 5
>> format for compatibility with other containers and decoders.
>> Automatically inserted when
>> remuxing to MP4, MKV, FLV, IVF, and raw OBU files.
>> - Decoder Support: Both libdav1d and libaom decoders can directly decode
>> AV1 in start code format.
>>
>
> I haven't followed that AoM activity in a very long time, but from what I
> remember, there was a big reason why it remained a draft, as there was no
> consensus/decision possible for some of the features (maybe start code).
>
> I think the previously mentioned wisdom that ffmpeg shouldn't generate
> files that could end up not being spec-compliant, should be applied here as
> well. Ie maybe delay merging this until there is clear indication the
> implemented features are no longer subject to change.
>
> Note that for RTP, it was more about being lost in limbo, with little
> interop (ie between vendors) really possible, and with a global agreement
> on all classical points. I don't think what was merged in ffmpeg ended up
> non-spec compliant, but it could be argued it was out of luck.
>
> Mostly my 2 cents,
> Regards,
> Christophe
Muxing was removed from the PR, so that should not be an issue.
Supposedly, the existing draft is being used by some content deliver
services, but I'm not sure how widespread is support for it out there.
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Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-28 18:45 [FFmpeg-devel] " Jun Zhao via ffmpeg-devel
2026-01-07 13:25 ` [FFmpeg-devel] " Christophe Gisquet via ffmpeg-devel
2026-01-07 23:30 ` James Almer via ffmpeg-devel [this message]
2026-01-08 1:23 ` mypopy--- via ffmpeg-devel
2026-01-08 7:32 ` Christophe Gisquet via ffmpeg-devel
2026-01-08 8:25 ` mypopy--- via ffmpeg-devel
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