On 6/1/2025 4:23 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > Hi James > > On Sun, Jun 01, 2025 at 02:27:37PM -0300, James Almer wrote: >> On 6/1/2025 12:22 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: >>> Hi all >>> >>> almpeg is now merged upto 1 months ago. (and since last merge it contains >>> bits of AGPL code) >>> >>> The question now is, how does the community want to proceed from here? >> Full stop. >> > >> Not only you're trying to bypass explicit a license notice on >> technicalities, > > This is a serious accusation. > > Code is either under the LGPL license or it is not. > It cannot be sometimes under the LGPL license, the license headers > on the files in question, distrinbuted by Paul are unmodified > LGPL headers. There is no extra notice or anything in these headers. > > If paul wants them to be GPL he can change these headers at any time. > > And the "explicit license notice" you refer to is this: > > "All Librempeg modifications, and any new files not available in FFmpeg, are licensed under GPL v2, > unless stated otherwise." > > And it IS stated otherwise in these files by the license header in these > files. This is the technicality i was talking about. The fact he copy-pasted a boilerplate LGPL header in all new files being used as a way to invoke the "unless stated otherwise" part of the notice. I'm not against merging his changes, and i apologize if what i said before sounded like an accusation, but the way i want this to go forward is with him being ok with it, and not us trying to find a way to workaround what was seemingly his intention to license his changes a certain way. > > That said, with open source and free software it is the morally correct > thing, if one makes changes to code, to return these changes to the parent > project under the same license as the parent project. > This is morally the ONLY correct thing one can do. > > The technicality is that one can change the LGPL to a GPL or AGPL. > The purpose of this is allowing to combine LGPL with GPL or AGPL > NOT to fork a project and prevent the parent project and its users > from having access to the modifications. > > You can listen to some interviews by linus torvalds if you think > my point here is crazy. > I will reply to the rest of your mail seperately to keep this from becoming > too long > > But one thing id like to mention here, your accusation escalates this > in a way that could reduce the chance of paul returning. And > I tried my best and i talked (emailed) with paul in the last days. > You knew i was working on this and i would have appreciated a private > message over a public accusation Paul showed up on IRC a week or so ago and said you did not email him. If that changed in the last couple days, why didn't you or him mention it?