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From: James Almer <jamrial@gmail.com>
To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/5] lavu/common.h: Fix UB in av_clipl_int32_c()
Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 12:42:09 -0300
Message-ID: <f0e52c08-7f52-4b17-9510-5c0a6ded350b@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20ed729b1ab93ec21e643f8b26498fa900a33019.camel@haerdin.se>

On 5/30/2024 12:32 PM, Tomas Härdin wrote:
> tor 2024-05-30 klockan 17:28 +0300 skrev Rémi Denis-Courmont:
>>
>>
>> Le 30 mai 2024 17:07:21 GMT+03:00, "Tomas Härdin" <git@haerdin.se> a
>> écrit :
>>>> We should depend on punning as long as it conforms to the
>>>> standard.
>>>
>>> My mistake, I forgot type punning is allowed in C. It's UB in C++
>>>
>>>>> The standard compliant way
>>>>> is to use memcpy()
>>>>
>>>> That's way worse than union in terms of how proactively the
>>>> compiler
>>>> needs to optimise, and both approaches are as confirming.
>>>
>>> A good compiler will do the same thing
>>
>> True, and I don't care very much about memcpy vs union, as they both
>> rely on matching representation. AFAIR, FFmpeg tends to use unions
>> though.
>>
>>>
>>> Maybe I can get the riscv version covered by Eva as well. That's
>>> beyond
>>> the scope of this patchset
>>
>> IMHO, this specific patch (and the following one) are beating dead
>> horses. Sure there may be theoretical UB in the current code, but if
>> there is a *better* implementation, better switch to that than bike
>> shedding the fix for the UB.
> 
> Are you saying that UB is acceptable? You know the compiler is free to
> assume signed arithmetic doesn't overflow, right? If so then what other
> UB might we accept?

He did not say that... He said we should switch to a better 
implementation rather than trying to fix the existing potentially buggy one.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-05-30 15:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-29 22:13 Tomas Härdin
2024-05-29 22:13 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/5] lavu/common.h: Fix UB in av_clip_intp2_c() Tomas Härdin
2024-05-29 22:24   ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2024-05-29 23:08     ` Tomas Härdin
2024-05-29 22:14 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 3/5] lavu/common.h: Fix UB in av_clip_uintp2_c() Tomas Härdin
2024-05-31  0:27   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-29 22:14 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 4/5] lavu/intmath.h: Fix UB in ff_ctz_c() and ff_ctzll_c() Tomas Härdin
2024-05-30  7:54   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-30  9:50     ` Tomas Härdin
2024-05-30 12:29       ` Hendrik Leppkes
2024-05-30 13:06       ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-30 14:03         ` Tomas Härdin
2024-05-30 14:32           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-31  0:43           ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-05-31  0:41     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-31  5:48       ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-31  0:31   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-29 22:15 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 5/5] lavu/mathematics: Return early if either a or b is zero Tomas Härdin
2024-05-31  0:22   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-31 15:21     ` Tomas Härdin
2024-05-29 22:31 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/5] lavu/common.h: Fix UB in av_clipl_int32_c() Andreas Rheinhardt
2024-05-30  9:48   ` Tomas Härdin
2024-05-30  6:41 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-30  9:40   ` Tomas Härdin
2024-05-30 11:50     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-30 14:07       ` Tomas Härdin
2024-05-30 14:28         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-30 15:32           ` Tomas Härdin
2024-05-30 15:38             ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-31  1:03               ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-03  7:32                 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-03 21:21                   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-30 15:42             ` James Almer [this message]
2024-05-30 16:48               ` Tomas Härdin
2024-05-30 17:49                 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-30 19:07                   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-30 19:20                     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-31 15:23                   ` Tomas Härdin
2024-06-14 12:31 ` Tomas Härdin

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