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X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: On 2/8/2024 3:52 PM, Sean McGovern wrote: > Hi developers, > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024, 23:30 Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> On Thu, 8 Feb 2024, at 01:36, Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel wrote: >>>> There were simply no objections to moving to C11. >>>> The C17 plan came about later because it has important bugfixes. >>>> It doesn't really matter as compilers backported the new behaviour to >> C11 >>>> (or rather, they consistently had the same behaviour, but now it became >> a standard). >>>> >>> >>> There were no objections to C11, however C17 was brought up and there >>> were objections that it's likely too soon and I believe JB proposed >>> holding off for a year on C17 (while adopting C11 immediately), which >> >> My recommendation is still this: >> - move to C11 now >> - activate C17 on some Fate/CI targets >> - recommend C17 compilers modes >> - move to C17 at this mid-year when 7.1 is branched (LTS if we follow our >> plans) >> > > > I like this approach. It's a shame we can't get metrics on who might be > genuinely affected by a direct move to C17. > > I'd be more than willing to host one or more FATE nodes with C17 turned on. > Do let me know if this is desirable. At least for GCC, -std=c11 is the same as -std=c17 except for the __STDC_VERSION__ value. As in, apparently all the fixes are implemented either way. And as far as i understand it, we would require c11 but use c17 if present (Meaning, test std=c17, fallback to std=c11, abort if not possible), so all FATE instances using a relatively recent compiler will invariably use c17. What we would need is instances with old compilers, pre-2017, to get actual c11 testing. _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".