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From: James Almer <jamrial@gmail.com>
To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 000/279 v2] New channel layout API
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 23:37:50 -0300
Message-ID: <eb5a46c5-6933-c9a4-2a91-c3f4264d32d3@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <92861361-f316-78a5-3c72-1e279d2a9f8c@passwd.hu>



On 12/16/2021 9:04 PM, Marton Balint wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 16 Dec 2021, James Almer wrote:
> 
>> Resending the first two patches only, since this is meant to
>> show the implementation of one of the several suggestions made
>> in the previous set that need to be discussed and hopefully
>> resolved in a call.
> 
> Can you push the full branch somewhere?

Just force pushed the latest version to the same repo as last time in 
https://github.com/jamrial/FFmpeg/commits/channel_layout

> 
>>
>> The proposals so far to extend the API to support either custom
>> labels for channels are, or some form of extra user information.
>>
>> - Fixed array of bytes to hold a label. Simple solution, but
>>  the labels will have a hard limit that can only be extended
>>  with a major bump. This is what i implemented in this version.
>> - "char *name" per channel that the user may allocate and the
>>  API will manage, duplicate and free. Simple solution, and the
>>  name can be arbitrarily long, but inefficient (av_strdup() per
>>  channel with a custom label on layout copy).
>> - "const char *name" per channel for compile time constants, or
>>  that the user may allocate and free. Very efficient, but for
>>  non compile time strings ensuring they outlive the layout can
>>  be tricky.
>> - Refcounted AVChannelCustom with a dictionary. This can't be
>>  done with AVBufferRef, so it would require some other form
>>  of reference counting. And a dictionary may add quite a bit of
>>  complexity to the API, as you can set anything on them.
> 
> Until we have proper refcounting API we can make the AVBufferRef in 
> AVChannelLayout a void *, and only allow channel_layout functions to 
> dereference it as an AVBufferRef. This would mean adding some extra 
> helper functions to channel layout, but overall it is not unsolvable.
> 
> The real question is that if you want to use refcounting and add helpers 
> to query / replace per-channel metadata, or you find the idea too heavy 
> weight and would like to stick to flat structs.
> 
>> - Opaque id/s or pointer/s that the API will not touch beyond
>>  passing them around (So unlike the above, the helpers would not
>>  benefit from this). This can be combined with any of the above,
>>  too, and i did as much in this version.
>> - Leave API as it was in v1.
> 
> Maybe it is not said enough times, but thanks to everybody who worked on 
> this. It certainly was huge work, and I know that it is a thankless 
> effort to get such a big change merged. Any change based on my 
> suggestions is appreciated, even if some of my ideas get rejected in the 
> end.
> 
> Thanks,
> Marton
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-17  2:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-16 13:21 James Almer
2021-12-16 13:21 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 001/279 v2] Add a new " James Almer
2021-12-16 17:20   ` Paul B Mahol
2021-12-16 18:27     ` James Almer
2021-12-16 18:31       ` Paul B Mahol
2021-12-16 19:14         ` James Almer
2021-12-16 23:27   ` Marton Balint
2021-12-17  2:34     ` James Almer
2021-12-17 12:43     ` James Almer
2021-12-16 13:21 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 002/279 v2] fate: add a channel_layout API test James Almer
2021-12-17  0:04 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 000/279 v2] New channel layout API Marton Balint
2021-12-17  2:37   ` James Almer [this message]
2021-12-17 19:20     ` Marton Balint
2021-12-17 19:32       ` James Almer
2021-12-17 11:24   ` Michael Niedermayer
2021-12-17 18:04     ` Marton Balint
2021-12-18 13:36       ` Michael Niedermayer
2021-12-18 14:15         ` Michael Niedermayer
2021-12-19 11:35           ` Marton Balint
2021-12-19 12:51             ` Michael Niedermayer

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