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From: Gregor Riepl via ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
Cc: Gregor Riepl <onitake@gmail.com>
Subject: [FFmpeg-devel] Re: [RFC] C++
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2025 14:09:32 +0200
Message-ID: <e2c76a7b-2e3e-4838-84c7-e4eed4b6aac6@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <23234a7ec4715e7df0c9c4e5b2ad9556a98d6823.camel@haerdin.se>

> My main motivation is to be able to use STL, which would simplify
> string handling and memory management, and give us access to its data
> structures. Manual memory management has its place, especially in lavc.
> In lavf less so. RAII would do wonders in de-gotofying error handling.
> Features like std::filesystem, std::chrono, std::thread etc abstract
> away many OS particularities. Thorough STL-ification would render parts
> of lavu obsolete. avstring.*, bprintf.* and tree.* come to mind. This
> would have security benefits. Another reason is stronger typing, which
> tends to reveal bugs.

Just for the sake of the argument: Wouldn't it be better to opt for an even safer language than C++, like Rust?

C++ has received a lot of criticism in being just as memory unsafe as C, and I personally think that it adds an epic amount of complexity to writing correct code. Although - that may or may not be the case depending on where and how it's used in the code base.

I don't have any preference either way, but it seems to me that investing effort to make the internals of FFmpeg safer and easier to use would be better spent on a more modern and robust language than C++.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-22 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-20 17:50 [FFmpeg-devel] " Tomas Härdin via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-20 21:34 ` [FFmpeg-devel] " Neal Gompa via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-21  2:24 ` Lynne via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22  8:57   ` Tomas Härdin via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 10:46   ` Tomas Härdin via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-21 18:41 ` Niklas Haas via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22  3:15 ` Romain Beauxis via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22  4:19   ` InnocentZero via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22  8:24   ` Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 10:53   ` Tomas Härdin via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 12:09 ` Gregor Riepl via ffmpeg-devel [this message]
2025-10-22 12:42   ` Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 13:07   ` Timo Rothenpieler via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 17:07     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 18:12       ` Timo Rothenpieler via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 18:50         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 17:08   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-23 21:45   ` Tomas Härdin via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 13:05 ` Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-23 21:49   ` Tomas Härdin via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-23 22:24     ` Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 14:03 ` Leo Izen via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-21 14:47 Zhao Zhili via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-21 14:58 ` Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-21 15:31   ` Zhao Zhili via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22  1:34     ` Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22  8:11     ` Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22  9:15       ` Zhao Zhili via ffmpeg-devel

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