From: Timo Rothenpieler <timo@rothenpieler.org> To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] avutil/mem: always align by at least 32 bytes Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2023 18:56:58 +0100 Message-ID: <d57d8464-0663-46f0-80a2-9a885735e5a8@rothenpieler.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <AS8P250MB07449B2D5A834FF10DD7C3528F8AA@AS8P250MB0744.EURP250.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> On 08.12.2023 11:01, Andreas Rheinhardt wrote: > Timo Rothenpieler: >> FFmpeg has instances of DECLARE_ALIGNED(32, ...) in a lot of structs, >> which then end up heap-allocated. >> By declaring any variable in a struct, or tree of structs, to be 32 byte >> aligned, it allows the compiler to safely assume the entire struct >> itself is also 32 byte aligned. >> >> This might make the compiler emit code which straight up crashes or >> misbehaves in other ways, and at least in one instances is now >> documented to actually do (see ticket 10549 on trac). >> The issue there is that an unrelated variable in SingleChannelElement is >> declared to have an alignment of 32 bytes. So if the compiler does a copy >> in decode_cpe() with avx instructions, but ffmpeg is built with >> --disable-avx, this results in a crash, since the memory is only 16 byte >> aligned. >> Mind you, even if the compiler does not emit avx instructions, the code >> is still invalid and could misbehave. It just happens not to. Declaring >> any variable in a struct with a 32 byte alignment promises 32 byte >> alignment of the whole struct to the compiler. >> >> Instead of now going through all instances of variables in structs >> being declared as 32 byte aligned, this patch bumps the minimum alignment >> to 32 bytes. >> --- >> libavutil/mem.c | 2 +- >> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) >> >> diff --git a/libavutil/mem.c b/libavutil/mem.c >> index 36b8940a0c..26a9b9753b 100644 >> --- a/libavutil/mem.c >> +++ b/libavutil/mem.c >> @@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ void free(void *ptr); >> >> #endif /* MALLOC_PREFIX */ >> >> -#define ALIGN (HAVE_AVX512 ? 64 : (HAVE_AVX ? 32 : 16)) >> +#define ALIGN (HAVE_AVX512 ? 64 : 32) >> >> /* NOTE: if you want to override these functions with your own >> * implementations (not recommended) you have to link libav* as > > 1. There is another way in which this can be triggered: Namely if one > uses a build with AVX, but combines it with a lavu built without it; it > is also triggerable on non-x86 (having an insufficiently aligned pointer > is always UB even if the CPU does not have instructions that would > benefit from the additional alignment). You should mention this in the > commit message. Is mixing the libraries really a scenario we need to care about/support? And yeah, this is only marginally related to AVX, in that it's what triggers a crash in this scenario. But as stated in the commit message, it's not a valid thing to do in any case, on any arch. It just happens not to crash. > 2. This topic gave me headaches when creating RefStruct. I "solved" it > by (ab)using STRIDE_ALIGN which mimicks the alignment of av_malloc(), > thereby ensuring that RefStruct does not break lavc builds built with > the avx dsp functions enabled (but it does not guard against using a > lavu whose av_malloc() only provides less alignment). > > 3. There is a downside to your patch: It bumps alignment for non-x86 > arches which wastes memory (and may make allocators slower). We could > fix this by modifying the 32-byte-alignment macros to only provide 16 > byte alignment if the ARCH_ (and potentially the HAVE_) defines indicate > that no alignment bigger than 16 is needed. But it's invalid on any other arch as well, just hasn't bitten us yet. I'm not sure if I'd want to start maintaining a growingly complex list of CPU extensions and make the DECLARE_ALIGNED macro lie if we think it doesn't need 32 byte alignment. We don't really know why someone wants a variable aligned after all. > - Andreas > > _______________________________________________ > ffmpeg-devel mailing list > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org > https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel > > To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email > ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-08 17:57 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2023-12-03 20:10 Timo Rothenpieler 2023-12-06 12:27 ` Timo Rothenpieler 2023-12-06 12:31 ` James Almer 2023-12-06 12:56 ` Timo Rothenpieler 2023-12-06 12:50 ` Ronald S. Bultje 2023-12-06 12:54 ` James Almer 2023-12-06 13:25 ` Martin Storsjö 2023-12-06 13:27 ` Timo Rothenpieler 2023-12-06 13:29 ` Martin Storsjö 2023-12-08 0:15 ` Timo Rothenpieler 2023-12-08 5:57 ` Martin Storsjö 2023-12-08 10:01 ` Andreas Rheinhardt 2023-12-08 17:56 ` Timo Rothenpieler [this message] 2023-12-08 18:11 ` Nicolas George 2023-12-09 5:23 ` Andreas Rheinhardt 2024-01-12 23:10 ` Timo Rothenpieler 2024-01-13 0:57 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] avutil/mem: limit alignment to maximum simg align Timo Rothenpieler 2024-01-13 1:00 ` Timo Rothenpieler 2024-01-13 15:24 ` Timo Rothenpieler 2024-01-13 15:46 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2] avutil/mem: limit alignment to maximum simd align Timo Rothenpieler 2024-02-09 19:22 ` Timo Rothenpieler 2024-02-11 14:05 ` Sam James 2024-02-11 14:22 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont 2024-02-11 15:47 ` Timo Rothenpieler 2024-02-11 14:00 ` Andreas Rheinhardt 2024-02-11 16:06 ` Timo Rothenpieler 2024-02-11 17:40 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] " Timo Rothenpieler 2024-02-26 16:58 ` Timo Rothenpieler 2024-02-27 18:45 ` Timo Rothenpieler
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