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From: "Tomas Härdin" <git@haerdin.se>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2] avformat: add Software Defined Radio support
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 23:51:21 +0200
Message-ID: <cb7ac5d1b4a3a5c68dd7bd4dcf5a3a91c27bd838.camel@haerdin.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZJ0vafCoilAnFMO9@phare.normalesup.org>

tor 2023-06-29 klockan 09:14 +0200 skrev Nicolas George:
> Tomas Härdin (12023-06-29):
> 
> >                           The reason why XML parsing shouldn't be
> > implemented in FFmpeg isn't just because it is difficult but
> > because:
> > 
> > * it is out of scope
> 
> It is necessary.

Factually incorrect. libxml2 provides what we need. libexpat would also
be acceptable. In fact providing that option may be useful to
packagers.

> > * it is technical debt
> > * shitty parsing is the cause of the vast majority of CVEs
> > 
> > It speaks of an inability to make sane architectural decisions, of
> > not
> > seperating concerns and of preferring cowboy coding over sane
> > decisions
> > with respect to the entire free software ecosystem.
> 
> Thank you for illustrating my words with your inability to consider
> that
> (1) we do not need a complete parser (2) the things that make parsing
> XML hard are precisely the things we do not need and (3) if you
> consider
> writing such a XML parser is way too hard, it speaks more of your
> skills
> in that area than anything else.

I am perfectly capable of writing an XML parser, potentially a formally
correct one. But more importantly I am capable of understanding that
doing so would be a waste of time and (if not formally verified) a
source of CVEs. The same goes for AM demodulation.

> > Are you implying that API and ABI stability are not important?
> 
> Precisely. Nothing is “important” in absolute?

ABI and API stability are Pretty Fucking Important. This attitude alone
is reason to withdraw push access.



> API and ABI stability are important if you want to be of service.

What do you think the point of this project is?


> Well, let me tell you this: if you want to force me to not have fun
> and
> spend effort on things you think are important instead, go fork
> yourself.

Childish insults do not make you right, but rather the opposite.
Discipline is important, especially in large projects.

/Tomas
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-30 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-18 22:28 Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-22 13:43 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-22 13:55   ` James Almer
2023-06-22 15:05     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-22 15:10       ` James Almer
2023-06-22 16:26         ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-22 16:42           ` James Almer
2023-06-22 22:00             ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-23  2:34 ` Kieran Kunhya
2023-06-23 11:17   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-23 11:36     ` Kieran Kunhya
2023-06-23 16:37     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-06-23 18:12       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-23 18:17         ` Paul B Mahol
2023-06-23 18:56           ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-23 19:10             ` Paul B Mahol
2023-06-23 19:16               ` James Almer
2023-06-24 20:27         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-06-24 21:03           ` Tomas Härdin
2023-06-25 13:53           ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-25 14:25           ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-24 22:19         ` Nicolas George
2023-06-25 14:10           ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-27 19:09           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-06-28 22:15           ` Tomas Härdin
2023-06-29  7:14             ` Nicolas George
2023-06-29  9:46               ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-06-30 21:51               ` Tomas Härdin [this message]
2023-07-02  8:11                 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-07-02  9:34                 ` Nicolas George
2023-07-02  9:54                   ` Tomas Härdin
2023-07-02  9:56                     ` Nicolas George
2023-06-23 20:10 ` Tomas Härdin
2023-06-23 21:18   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-24  9:51     ` Tomas Härdin
2023-06-24 21:01       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-24 22:01         ` Tomas Härdin
2023-06-25  9:54           ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-27  9:00             ` Tomas Härdin
2023-06-27 10:57               ` Nicolas George
2023-06-27 17:07                 ` Tomas Härdin
2023-06-27 17:11                   ` Nicolas George
2023-06-25 10:23           ` Kieran Kunhya

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