From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE6748E51 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 17:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96BE568CDF3; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 19:55:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail-pf1-f173.google.com (mail-pf1-f173.google.com [209.85.210.173]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FEF568C05A for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 19:55:16 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail-pf1-f173.google.com with SMTP id d2e1a72fcca58-6e571666804so478486b3a.2 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 09:55:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1709142913; x=1709747713; darn=ffmpeg.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:content-language :references:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id:from :to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=riuX4GwG3I4hZIVg7HmZ8ktlYQLF78TM9lOejHlhHxs=; b=ZuWjw2VBVegfEILZmBc+7VnIwPpFOzAOf9hzdBUSOC2VSm9/LtL+HvgCX5SPC7SCLz QX0kW2mZ/wNjRrkmIlxxc/5VmvW25v1JqSuAKmDF3ZVlyvCrYNEEwdl2N8FMryn8+wnF PlbqAP+wl+47xGpDrUa1dPXMTJh/sbtW5PRMUwSts0E4c+EkZEOqKjVHvkgjmUZcbiU/ uJQON+Az0Nc6i0kKCQSoJaHUrOA1ZGMGIWuUqqNZeFJ7ScE5wmisg9zla64TMl5hcNXB TeUjgdE5BI93lilkN5W4+DG9IeVwLYtzpTTxmPYMIgB8x/CDl99vKBZ8lFaMcl9jEqsq kdqw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1709142913; x=1709747713; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:content-language :references:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=riuX4GwG3I4hZIVg7HmZ8ktlYQLF78TM9lOejHlhHxs=; b=RNkI8qrj0hkBieo0LmmzfQQZnznoPvbgNCXmsX3eXHXb81kkS0gGqndfBmppZYMcVC FE18/q4XNIPkUONfkAqpQpZA4wsaVhDf3oKzcPmDTxtjFQUDuS/i2pRXHXEpyAQuYSMl gKEET6rbE9xOS+dcm25znoV5tf+gVFnSXVPy1D96zh1jdYgcifblrRY16f2eGSIvHNB2 CCN0ZBnx7CZFeSwI0SyKd0XCN8a087d0lz3wJ1Mv5z59AWStCbu0eRZZlm9DISGSbyHd 8eHkJmG+tO1JNf30d0VAtBvGuI4sGqAvw30Bnp49QZkSH0sgTtCV6mMhiJlqYbb8bDyy p1pA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyfJ30Iso3+IMkS5crdYQSeJwuHGg92NgapTcNM2SA65gJSpNLb hRUaMRzWotiWzifbRPYkRTsLX96XAJ+ZCzm1ZP8jbCajsXFV+kn1ByKjgh9O X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE4Vjmydpg1Z3eWQvQ749Qhz1sTppgSJO8iZ7Jq0F93/g36067UQsmyjM7IHJDY8+Aq0ugYrA== X-Received: by 2002:aa7:8482:0:b0:6e4:eb29:357 with SMTP id u2-20020aa78482000000b006e4eb290357mr348879pfn.12.1709142912809; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 09:55:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.11] ([190.194.169.124]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j7-20020aa78007000000b006e4743c0a12sm8067172pfi.201.2024.02.28.09.55.11 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 28 Feb 2024 09:55:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 14:55:11 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org References: <20240228125616.458327-1-jdek@itanimul.li> <20240228125616.458327-2-jdek@itanimul.li> <20240228132943.GB6420@pb2> <87a5nk909t.fsf@itanimul.li> Content-Language: en-US From: James Almer In-Reply-To: <87a5nk909t.fsf@itanimul.li> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/2] avcodec: remove sonic lossy/lossless audio X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: On 2/28/2024 10:31 AM, J. Dekker wrote: > > Michael Niedermayer writes: > >> [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] >> On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 01:56:10PM +0100, J. Dekker wrote: >>> This was an experimental/research codec of which ffmpeg is the only >>> encoder and decoder, >> >> >>> development has stalled >> >> Thats not true, there was private dicussion making sonic the most >> advanced audio codec in FFmpeg a few months ago. >> Iam not saying that will happen, i am just saying there was a >> discussion about it. And that iam in principle interrested in >> working on this. Its possible i will not have enough time ... >> > > The last commit which actually changed the codec was > 6026a5ad4f135476c7a1f51f8cfa7f4cc2ca0283 by you in 2013 which is over 10 > years ago. For an experimental codec I think it's pretty safe to say > that development has stalled. > > Keeping the codec around based on 'what if?'s doesn't seem > reasonable. Besides, if you do make sonic the most advanced audio codec > in FFmpeg there's nothing which says you couldn't re-add it at a later > date when it's being actively developed again. Does it hurt keeping it around? If it can at some point be developed again, then removing the codec id to re-add it later will be a bit dirty. IMO, just disable both modules by default during configure, or tag the encoder as experimental to prevent new streams to be created unless explicitly requested knowing that it's an unfinished format. _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".