From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBB64A863 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 20:17:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20FFA68D3AE; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 23:17:26 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail-pj1-f41.google.com (mail-pj1-f41.google.com [209.85.216.41]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32A2968D265 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 23:17:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail-pj1-f41.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2a78c2e253aso150839a91.3 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 13:17:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1713385037; x=1713989837; darn=ffmpeg.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:cc:content-language :references:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id:from :to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Pup5HilbO2oR/y5nREF0j1Ueu06XCRFhr7wpVbdmMCg=; b=ixGzxZf1ObEc8k7K3OWzUMiZLXcDGH6N7QodV+7bcjHReqjER0uzyjFP5cereIvyry yicv6wA6LRpVdIsYWCtoWVbwP4mM2rcDIYyJjN7OQv6Z1sK7wKeKcnDYsQ3M8k6jJB70 S7LF4GWRlmYkJMIn/bqYmP+bo7W9nDko99GRd+meh90xeHTgOs+lBZdQlWw828RiDkZ1 ImeNkbPm0fFztkxLvA9LRsxdXL4QGckGMohBJOm64R+iulKRFRqo3bqticSByTBlZXm3 FfLh3G5SVUnzqk6AgX1N8FG6o1le2sgF8Y8ABgTr19vxuiE/ZkSiwyV1X3XuFFcjMEp5 6CnQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1713385037; x=1713989837; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:cc:content-language :references:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Pup5HilbO2oR/y5nREF0j1Ueu06XCRFhr7wpVbdmMCg=; b=qPmoRDXjzTc/+OqkYA3Va/s/pq992+PqLzPm3RQ8lYvv7mEzRz6gSitjQrN8Qd+vNZ 64I1A3LdwxDwrzDawIv5qJUU50Nee3bdoblNhR38ch0aYQ1cLztZeYQht2iFZjPXh+co X5xjwl5GjeEH9Zz4bjNP5KHXPiyGAsmQmIxWWj0Hmq+OgqUfNFx4PuHQ+O9AGFVgWWZj jVJ6w3sSHRIJeMfwzdtNKfZJQ4nmGb1IpfI7y64ogZV5Omx1ZY7Ay1vk1S937HMDnC1R MulpBIpzovPFnDpGZeTGiW8FgjJHJ8etKakg3VOOnYd+lP6hIv2iIlf57QhntIBy6yJe ngWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YynDY7pv/6niFWkdsMDG6HAUCyAkVxf+lA8vKgwiI8ZBoqk8cj2 8+CEihNaGoGkiW9vwxlTAKF/iNUZkqDKPWUMJ1BXuutKCoIl59ZWzXAUTg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IESE+FlA16tNHv0S1iZejAPFFgEeLRBS8eLOih12UVTxsvClxlJQcHDEJ1cEKP77OnZcbuoOg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:b38a:b0:2a8:5968:449d with SMTP id e10-20020a17090ab38a00b002a85968449dmr489487pjr.32.1713385037281; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 13:17:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.10] ([190.194.167.233]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id fy22-20020a17090b021600b002a67079c3absm55330pjb.42.2024.04.17.13.17.15 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Apr 2024 13:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 17:17:27 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org References: <38bff159-d1d3-40cd-954d-9892b78c0077@gmail.com> <2d4e4f1b-6716-417c-82bb-37d48c3a5890@gmail.com> <5b3f8323-c351-45cb-8347-d4060455346d@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-US From: James Almer In-Reply-To: <5b3f8323-c351-45cb-8347-d4060455346d@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Mailinglist conduct X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Cc: Derek Buitenhuis Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: On 4/17/2024 4:43 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote: > On 4/17/2024 8:33 PM, James Almer wrote: >>>> This was an unnecessary personal attack, please don't do that again. Repeat >>>> offense may result in temporary bans on the mailinglist and/or IRC. Please >>>> keep it civil. >>> >>> That does not make it untrue, however. >> >> It's ok to have opinions. But there are better way to express them. > > It is not an opinion if it is true. > >>> I would have preferred a ban. >> >> Let's drop it here, please. > > I will say what I said earlier in private. > > [16:15] i am tired of the whole thing where the person pointing out the insanity is punished because they were mean > [16:15] and the people doing long term damage keep on scott free > [16:17] focusing on Mean Words > [16:17] instead of deeper issues What i saw were questions that went unanswered a few months ago, and now you being angry with said person that you say gets scott free. Can you please explain the overall situation, from your PoV? I swear a lot of stuff just happens behind curtains and i and others only notice it when it explodes. > > I agree I was out of line, but for the above reason (among others), the CC is a lame duck, One email saying one thing out of the line is no reason for a ban. Why would you want to force anyone to do that? Seriously, there's a lot of missing context here, and my work as part of the CC gets complex. Half the stuff i know about this i learned on IRC only a few hours ago, which apparently was common knowledge for some and news for others. > lacking the ability to enact actual meaningful change. The modus operandi here is to drive > anyone sane into eventually getting angry and saying regretful things. Gaslighting, sort of. > More like [1]. Coupled with the complacent attitude of Please Just Stop So I Can Code from > a chunk of the rest of the community, I find myself screaming into the void. > > I am tired of screaming into the void. This is what i mean when i say things only become apparent when they explode. > > I have taken this opportunity to unsubscribe for a while, as a self imposed temp ban for my > own benefit. I did that last time I felt like [1] here, and it was beneficial. > > - Derek > > [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOK6mE7sdvs > _______________________________________________ > ffmpeg-devel mailing list > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org > https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel > > To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email > ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".