Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Mailinglist conduct

[James Almer <jamrial@gmail.com>]

On 4/17/2024 4:43 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> On 4/17/2024 8:33 PM, James Almer wrote:
>>>> This was an unnecessary personal attack, please don't do that again. Repeat
>>>> offense may result in temporary bans on the mailinglist and/or IRC. Please
>>>> keep it civil.
>>>
>>> That does not make it untrue, however.
>>
>> It's ok to have opinions. But there are better way to express them.
> 
> It is not an opinion if it is true.
> 
>>> I would have preferred a ban.
>>
>> Let's drop it here, please.
> 
> I will say what I said earlier in private.
> 
> [16:15] <Daemon404> i am tired of the whole thing where the person pointing out the insanity is punished because they were mean
> [16:15] <Daemon404> and the people doing long term damage keep on scott free
> [16:17] <Daemon404> focusing on Mean Words
> [16:17] <Daemon404> instead of deeper issues

What i saw were questions that went unanswered a few months ago, and now 
you being angry with said person that you say gets scott free.
Can you please explain the overall situation, from your PoV? I swear a 
lot of stuff just happens behind curtains and i and others only notice 
it when it explodes.

> 
> I agree I was out of line, but for the above reason (among others), the CC is a lame duck,

One email saying one thing out of the line is no reason for a ban. Why 
would you want to force anyone to do that?

Seriously, there's a lot of missing context here, and my work as part of 
the CC gets complex. Half the stuff i know about this i learned on IRC 
only a few hours ago, which apparently was common knowledge for some and 
news for others.

> lacking the ability to enact actual meaningful change. The modus operandi here is to drive
> anyone sane into eventually getting angry and saying regretful things. Gaslighting, sort of.
> More like [1]. Coupled with the complacent attitude of Please Just Stop So I Can Code from
> a chunk of the rest of the community, I find myself screaming into the void.
> 
> I am tired of screaming into the void.

This is what i mean when i say things only become apparent when they 
explode.

> 
> I have taken this opportunity to unsubscribe for a while, as a self imposed temp ban for my
> own benefit. I did that last time I felt like [1] here, and it was beneficial.
> 
> - Derek
> 
> [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOK6mE7sdvs
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