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From: "Jean-Baptiste Kempf" <jb@videolan.org>
To: "Michael Niedermayer" <michael@niedermayer.cc>,
	ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: extra members for GA
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2023 23:58:29 +0100
Message-ID: <bb4e728d-184f-443b-b7cf-9e081e43cf73@betaapp.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231109224938.GI3543730@pb2>

On Thu, 9 Nov 2023, at 23:49, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 08:30:15PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023, at 19:15, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>> > On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 07:53:33PM +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>> >> Le torstaina 9. marraskuuta 2023, 19.41.53 EET Michael Niedermayer a écrit :
>> > [...]
>> >> If you think some people should be added, as far as I am concerned, you are of 
>> >> course welcome to nudge them via private message to friendly remind them that 
>> >> they can nominate themselves.
>> >
>> > so what i will do then is
>> > If a developer was in the GA before || are just under the threshold but
>> > active || are part of the infra teams and packaging
>> > i will leave them in the list to be added (that is also what jb suggested)
>> 
>> Of course, this seems reasonable.
>> 
>> > I will contact them and ask if they want to be in the GA and
>> 
>> You should contact who you want, or think is necessary.
>> But they should step forward and say so publicly that they are candidates.
>
> last time you collected candidates you said something very different
>
> https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2020-June/265348.html
>
> "If you are interested in being a candidate, please mail me in private 
> (aka not on the list).
>  You can suggest another candidate, but I will validate with them if 
> they might agree in the end."
>
> I want to use the exact same process, why you and other people demand
> a higher bar ?

First, because noone said anything else on that thread to ask for it to be public.
And then, because people complained after that it was not public, at the following meeting.
So we said that we would do differently the following time.

You want everything public, for everything, even for list of voters, and emails, and SPI reimbursements, (for things that are something a clear privacy and GDPR violations). But now, you want to keep private the people who should be external GA members, while, on THIS very thread, people asked for publicity and for candidates to speak up for their candidacy.

Also, at that time, I did not bring a list of 20 candidates who are, for the most part, inactive.
While asking "trust me, I will get their approval in private, but they will not speak on the mailing list".

jb

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-09 22:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-05  9:24 Anton Khirnov
2023-11-05 19:57 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-11-05 23:25   ` James Almer
2023-11-05 23:39     ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-11-09  9:44 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-09 11:55   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 12:11     ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-11-09 15:40       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 16:39         ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-11-09 12:14     ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-11-09 12:21     ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-09 12:24       ` James Almer
2023-11-09 12:28         ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-10 12:50           ` Reimar Döffinger
2023-11-10 10:57         ` Hendrik Leppkes
2023-11-09 16:21       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 16:36         ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-11-09 17:24           ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 17:31             ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-11-09 17:50               ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 18:09                 ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-10 11:33               ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-10 12:39                 ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-10 13:04                   ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-11 23:45                   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-11 23:49                     ` Kieran Kunhya
2023-11-11 23:59                     ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-09 17:06         ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-09 17:39           ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 18:12             ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-09 18:50               ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 19:15                 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-09 22:01                   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 17:39           ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-09 16:50       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 17:04         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-11-09 17:41           ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 17:53             ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
     [not found]               ` <2D211056-1560-4869-9279-7CEC9BA25AC4@cosmin.at>
2023-11-09 18:11                 ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-09 18:38                   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-11-09 18:15               ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 18:34                 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-09 18:41                 ` Martin Storsjö
2023-11-09 19:30                 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-11-09 20:17                   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 20:27                     ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-09 22:45                     ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-11-09 22:49                   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 22:58                     ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf [this message]
2023-11-10 11:06                       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-10 13:16                       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-10 13:37                         ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-11-11  2:24                       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-11  3:06                         ` James Almer
2023-11-11 17:28                           ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-11 18:02                             ` Paul B Mahol
2023-11-11 18:40                               ` James Almer
2023-11-11 18:25                             ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-12 17:14                               ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-12 17:53                                 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-10 10:54           ` Hendrik Leppkes
2023-11-10 12:24             ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-11-10 19:31               ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-10 19:42                 ` Martin Storsjö
2023-11-10 19:50                   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-10 20:21                 ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-11-09 12:45     ` Paul B Mahol
2023-11-09 22:00     ` Alexander Strasser
2023-11-10  0:18       ` James Almer
2023-11-10 10:41     ` Tobias Rapp

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