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From: "Tomas Härdin" <git@haerdin.se>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] liavcodec: add bit-rate support to RoQ video encoder
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 14:57:22 +0100
Message-ID: <b8f932823c6df6d57d6ef1a7deb3b1b389ecbb07.camel@haerdin.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOSHGWNvqWGO1uLOdi_qjo2cdvTR-i_enSkTr+qUE8BHtaqKWA@mail.gmail.com>

> > 
> > >  -    if (frame->quality)
> > > -        enc->lambda = frame->quality - 1;
> > > -    else
> > > -        enc->lambda = 2*ROQ_LAMBDA_SCALE;
> > > +    if (avctx->bit_rate <= ROQ_DEFAULT_MIN_BIT_RATE) {
> > > +        /* no specific bit rate desired, use frame quality */
> > > +        if (frame->quality)
> > > +            enc->lambda = frame->quality - 1;
> > > +        else
> > > +            enc->lambda = 2*ROQ_LAMBDA_SCALE;
> > > +    }
> > 
> > This looks like a bit of a janky way to switch between qscale and
> > bitrate. Isn't there a way to detect whether an option has been set
> > explicitly? At the very least this behavior should be documented in
> > doc/encoders.texi
> > 
> 
> Originally, the code just checked for bit_rate !=
> AV_CODEC_DEFAULT_BITRATE,
> which required including options_table.h, which in turn produced a
> bunch
> of compilation warnings about certain fields being deprecated. None
> of the
> other codecs include that file + many simply check the bit_rate field
> against
> magic constants.

grepping for 200000 didn't reveal anything like that. Do you have a
specific example of an encoder that does this?

Perhaps we could move AV_CODEC_DEFAULT_BITRATE somewhere else, to avoid
pulling in a bunch of unrelated stuff. Maybe that doesn't need to hold
up this patch though. Tbh the way bitrate is defaulted to a value,
which makes it impossible to differentiate between a user-supplied -b
200k an no -b at all, is even more janky. The default is also
ridiculously low..

I know some encoders like libvpx allow specifying both quality (-crf)
and bitrate at the same time

/Tomas
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-22 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-21 21:08 Victor Luchits
2024-01-22 13:05 ` Tomas Härdin
2024-01-22 13:38   ` Victor Luchitz
2024-01-22 13:57     ` Tomas Härdin [this message]
2024-01-22 13:59       ` Martin Storsjö
2024-01-22 14:19         ` Tomas Härdin
2024-01-22 16:36           ` Victor Luchitz
2024-01-22 16:21         ` Victor Luchitz
2024-01-22 18:32       ` Victor Luchitz
2024-01-22 19:10         ` Tomas Härdin
2024-01-22 19:16           ` Victor Luchitz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-01-22 19:14 Victor Luchits
2024-01-22 21:12 ` Tomas Härdin
2024-01-22 21:40   ` Victor Luchitz
2024-01-22 23:25     ` Tomas Härdin
2024-01-22 22:39 ` epirat07
2024-01-21 20:19 Victor Luchits
2024-01-21 21:02 ` Michael Niedermayer

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