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From: Marton Balint <cus@passwd.hu>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 00/26] Major library version bump
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 23:28:15 +0100 (CET)
Message-ID: <b49f585b-467d-dd94-2a44-278a17609792@passwd.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4997c7ce-3db3-4062-b3b4-f65719debc43@betaapp.fastmail.com>



On Wed, 25 Jan 2023, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023, at 22:03, Marton Balint wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023, at 21:08, Marton Balint wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023, James Almer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/24/2023 12:45 PM, Anton Khirnov wrote:
>>>>>>  So to summarize the discussion so far:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  * nobody is strongly arguing for an instability period after the bump,
>>>>>>     and there are good reasons against it, therefore we should NOT have
>>>>>>     one
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  * the bump can be done either as bump-then-remove or remove-then-bump
>>>>>>       * there are advantages and disadvantages for both of those, nobody
>>>>>>         expressed a strong preference for either, so you can keep this as
>>>>>>         is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Please correct me if I misunderstood or missed something, or somebody
>>>>>>  has a new opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since the instability period doesn't seem popular, if anyone has some patches
>>>>> for ABI changes (enum value or field offset changes, removing avpriv_
>>>>> functions we forgot about, etc), then please send them asap so i can push
>>>>> them all at the same time.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, I can send the frame number changes tomorrow. When do you plan to do
>>>> the actual bump? I assumed the last 5.x release should be branched first.
>>>
>>> Why? 5.1 was already branched out.
>>
>> And is missing 6 months of development.
>
> So you want us to release both 6.0 and 5.2 at the same time?
> I don't get it.

I don't see too much benefit in releasing 6.0 right now just because we 
bumped API, beacuse API bump typically means API removal, not addition.

So my suggestion is to release 5.2, then bump, then release 6.0 in a few 
months. As I said, this allow things to calm down after the bump, which I 
find good practice even if we do not have a formal unstable period.

This is quite in line with what James proposed with 3 point releases:

x.0 - first release after API break
x.1 - LTS
x.2 - last release before API break

Regards,
Marton

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-25 22:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-16 13:38 James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 01/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_OPENH264_SLICE_MODE James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 02/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_OPENH264_CABAC James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 03/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_UNUSED_CODEC_CAPS James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 04/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_THREAD_SAFE_CALLBACKS James Almer
2023-01-20 22:44   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-01-23 22:05     ` James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 05/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_DEBUG_MV James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 06/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_GET_FRAME_CLASS James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 07/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_AUTO_THREADS James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 08/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_AVCTX_TIMEBASE James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 09/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_FLAG_TRUNCATED James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 10/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_SUB_TEXT_FORMAT James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 11/26] avformat: remove FF_API_LAVF_PRIV_OPT James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 12/26] avformat: remove FF_API_AVIOCONTEXT_WRITTEN James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 13/26] avformat: remove FF_HLS_TS_OPTIONS James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 14/26] avformat: remove FF_API_AVSTREAM_CLASS James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 15/26] avfilter: remove FF_API_SWS_PARAM_OPTION James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 16/26] avfilter: remove FF_API_BUFFERSINK_ALLOC James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 17/26] avfilter: remove FF_API_PAD_COUNT James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 18/26] avdevice: remove FF_API_DEVICE_CAPABILITIES James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 19/26] avutil: remove FF_API_D2STR James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 20/26] avutil: remove FF_API_DECLARE_ALIGNED James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 21/26] avutil: remove FF_API_COLORSPACE_NAME James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 22/26] avutil: remove FF_API_AV_MALLOCZ_ARRAY James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 23/26] avutil/version: postpone the remaining API deprecations James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 24/26] avcodec/version: " James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 25/26] avformat/version: " James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 26/26] Bump major versions of all libraries James Almer
2023-01-18 19:28 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 00/26] Major library version bump Anton Khirnov
2023-01-18 21:23   ` James Almer
2023-01-19  7:26     ` Anton Khirnov
2023-01-19 12:18       ` James Almer
2023-01-19 15:23         ` Anton Khirnov
2023-01-20  2:05     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-01-21 16:51       ` Anton Khirnov
2023-01-21 19:33         ` Marvin Scholz
2023-01-21 20:17           ` Hendrik Leppkes
2023-01-21 21:30             ` Marvin Scholz
2023-01-21 22:47               ` Hendrik Leppkes
2023-01-21 21:36         ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-01-21 22:00           ` Marton Balint
2023-01-22 22:54             ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-01-23 17:03             ` Anton Khirnov
2023-01-23 22:41               ` Marton Balint
2023-01-23 22:50                 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-01-23 23:22                   ` Marton Balint
2023-01-24  0:01                     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-01-24  0:06                       ` Marton Balint
2023-01-24  7:59                         ` Anton Khirnov
2023-01-24 19:48                           ` Marton Balint
2023-01-21 22:01           ` Marvin Scholz
2023-01-20 15:07     ` Tomas Härdin
2023-01-20 21:23   ` Leo Izen
2023-01-21 16:54     ` Anton Khirnov
2023-01-24 15:45 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-01-25 15:44   ` James Almer
2023-01-25 20:08     ` Marton Balint
2023-01-25 20:44       ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-01-25 21:03         ` Marton Balint
2023-01-25 21:15           ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-01-25 21:20             ` Paul B Mahol
2023-01-25 21:26               ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-01-25 21:29                 ` Paul B Mahol
2023-01-25 21:31                   ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-01-25 21:34                     ` Paul B Mahol
2023-01-25 22:28             ` Marton Balint [this message]
2023-01-25 22:48               ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-01-25 23:25                 ` Marton Balint
2023-01-26 22:16                   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-01-26 22:49                     ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-01-26 23:19                       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-01-26 23:21                         ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-01-27 18:42                       ` James Almer
2023-01-27 14:05 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 26/31] avcodec/avcodec: Remove AV_CODEC_FLAG2_DROP_FRAME_TIMECODE Andreas Rheinhardt
     [not found] ` <20230127140600.2831578-1-andreas.rheinhardt@outlook.com>
2023-01-27 14:05   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 27/31] avformat/avformat: Remove AVOutputFormat.data_codec Andreas Rheinhardt
2023-01-27 14:05   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 28/31] avformat/avformat: Move codecpar up in AVStream Andreas Rheinhardt
2023-01-27 14:05   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 29/31] avcodec: Make avcodec_decode_subtitle2 accept a const AVPacket* Andreas Rheinhardt
2023-01-27 14:05   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 30/31] avformat/demux: Avoid stack packet when decoding frame Andreas Rheinhardt
2023-01-27 14:06   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 31/31] avformat/avformat: Move AVOutputFormat internals out of public header Andreas Rheinhardt
2023-01-28 13:58 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 32/32] avutil/{color_utils, csp}: merge color_utils into csp and expose API Leo Izen
2023-01-29 11:08   ` Anton Khirnov
2023-01-30 16:50     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2] " Leo Izen
2023-01-30 17:08       ` Zhao Zhili
2023-01-30 17:12         ` Paul B Mahol
2023-01-30 18:22         ` Leo Izen
2023-01-31  2:20           ` "zhilizhao(赵志立)"
2023-02-02  7:02   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 0/6] Fix HDR vivid support Zhao Zhili
2023-02-02  8:00     ` Lance Wang
     [not found]   ` <20230202070208.1962086-1-quinkblack@foxmail.com>
2023-02-02  7:02     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 1/6] libavutil/hdr_dynamic_vivid_metadata: fix AVHDRVividColorToneMappingParams Zhao Zhili
2023-02-02  8:16       ` Anton Khirnov
2023-02-02  8:52         ` "zhilizhao(赵志立)"
2023-02-03 14:28           ` Anton Khirnov
2023-02-02  7:02     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 2/6] libavcodec/dynamic_hdr_vivid: fix start code check Zhao Zhili
2023-02-02  7:02     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 3/6] avcodec/dynamic_hdr_vivid: fix base_param_Delta Zhao Zhili
2023-02-02  7:02     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 4/6] avcodec/dynamic_hdr_vivid: fix base_enable_flag control Zhao Zhili
2023-02-02  7:02     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 5/6] avcodec/dynamic_hdr_vivid: reindent after the previous commit Zhao Zhili
2023-02-02  7:02     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 6/6] fftools/ffprobe: fix print_dynamic_hdr_vivid Zhao Zhili
2023-01-29 10:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/3] lavu/fifo: remove FF_API_FIFO_PEEK2 Anton Khirnov
2023-01-29 10:17   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/3] lavu/fifo: uninline deprecated av_fifo_peek2() Anton Khirnov
2023-01-29 16:11     ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2023-01-29 10:17   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 3/3] lavu/fifo: mark all AVFifoBuffer members as deprecated Anton Khirnov

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