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boundary="leaJTaoeEVw5/LoO" Content-Disposition: inline --leaJTaoeEVw5/LoO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Kieran On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 12:09:00AM -0800, Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel wr= ote: > On Mon, 10 Nov 2025, 19:00 Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel, < > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote: >=20 > > Hi Remi > > > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 06:03:38PM +0200, R=E9mi Denis-Courmont via > > ffmpeg-devel wrote: > > > Le lauantaina 8. marraskuuta 2025, 10.34.24 It=E4-Euroopan normaaliai= ka > > Thomas > > > Dullien via ffmpeg-devel a =E9crit : > > > > What's the best way to submit these patches? There is the bug track= er, > > > > there is this mailing list - what's the best way to contribute them? > > > > > > I don't think that DNN-generated patches are compatible with the LGPL= in > > the > > > first place, or it is at best very uncertain that they are. So then y= ou > > cannot > > > contribute DNN-generated patches in any useful way at all. > > > > If you have concrete legal analysis or case law that supports this clai= m, > > please share it. > > >=20 > If an LLM was trained on the leaked Microsoft Windows source code and it > used elements of that code when asked to write an FFmpeg patch, would that > patch be acceptable in your eyes? If a human was trained on the leaked Microsoft Windows source code and he used elements of that code when asked to write an FFmpeg patch, would that patch be acceptable in your eyes? 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