[FFmpeg-devel] New mailing-list archive

[FFmpeg-devel] New mailing-list archive

[Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel]

Hi. I just went to the new archive for this mailing-list.

Is it just me or does it suck?

I am looking at
<https://lists.ffmpeg.org/archives/list/ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org/thread/OU7LIDH65GJLH7IXSU7TBUCEUNDBRNQW/>
and I am not seeing any way to make a link to my own mail.

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: New mailing-list archive

[Diederick C. Niehorster via ffmpeg-devel]

On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 10:33 AM Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel
<ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
>
> Hi. I just went to the new archive for this mailing-list.
>
> Is it just me or does it suck?
>
> I am looking at
> <https://lists.ffmpeg.org/archives/list/ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org/thread/OU7LIDH65GJLH7IXSU7TBUCEUNDBRNQW/>
> and I am not seeing any way to make a link to my own mail.

The little chain icon in the lower right, next to the thumbs up and
thumbs down, generates:
https://lists.ffmpeg.org/archives/list/ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org/message/LHST53IEEVLV7ZFNAA3274N652WHRVA6/
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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: New mailing-list archive

[Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel]

Diederick C. Niehorster via ffmpeg-devel (HE12025-10-13):
> The little chain icon in the lower right, next to the thumbs up and
> thumbs down, generates:
> https://lists.ffmpeg.org/archives/list/ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org/message/LHST53IEEVLV7ZFNAA3274N652WHRVA6/

Thanks. It sucks a little less than the first impression. But it still
sucks. The fact that it defaults to a non-monospace font, for starters,
and tries to “pretty print” the mail is terrible for our use.

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: New mailing-list archive

[Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel]

Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel (HE12025-10-13):
> Thanks. It sucks a little less than the first impression. But it still
> sucks. The fact that it defaults to a non-monospace font, for starters,
> and tries to “pretty print” the mail is terrible for our use.

Also: threading. For example, this thread
<https://lists.ffmpeg.org/archives/list/ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org/thread/Q4TED2ECCNO4LNH2DSUAH4YZYAMF3QX5/>
that looks like that wit a MUA that supports threading :

[FFmpeg-user] Bruce Gavin : Access Exception 0xC0000005 from Windows.CreateProcess()
└─>[FFmpeg-user] Gyan Doshi : Re: Access Exception 0xC0000005 from Windows.CreateProcess()
  ├─> Bruce Gavin
  │ └─> Gyan Doshi
  └─> Bruce Gavin
    └─> Tobias Rapp

On the web version, there is a vague indentation to show the threading,
but nothing as readable as what we used to have.

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: New mailing-list archive

[Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel]

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Hi Nicolas

On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 11:09:20AM +0200, Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel (HE12025-10-13):
> > Thanks. It sucks a little less than the first impression. But it still
> > sucks. The fact that it defaults to a non-monospace font, for starters,
> > and tries to “pretty print” the mail is terrible for our use.
> 
> Also: threading. For example, this thread
> <https://lists.ffmpeg.org/archives/list/ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org/thread/Q4TED2ECCNO4LNH2DSUAH4YZYAMF3QX5/>
> that looks like that wit a MUA that supports threading :
> 
> [FFmpeg-user] Bruce Gavin : Access Exception 0xC0000005 from Windows.CreateProcess()
> └─>[FFmpeg-user] Gyan Doshi : Re: Access Exception 0xC0000005 from Windows.CreateProcess()
>   ├─> Bruce Gavin
>   │ └─> Gyan Doshi
>   └─> Bruce Gavin
>     └─> Tobias Rapp
> 
> On the web version, there is a vague indentation to show the threading,
> but nothing as readable as what we used to have.

theres also:
https://lists.ffmpeg.org/lore/ffmpeg-devel/
https://www.mail-archive.com/ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org/

Also if anyone has suggestions for better mail archieve software or better settings
for ours ...

thx

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: New mailing-list archive

[Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel]

Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel (HE12025-10-13):
> theres also:
> https://lists.ffmpeg.org/lore/ffmpeg-devel/

This is a lot better. I do not find how to get a threaded index like we
used to have, but it looks usable.

Thanks.

Could we have a link to this version in the information page of the
list?

> https://www.mail-archive.com/ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org/

This is good too, but it is not ours.

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: New mailing-list archive

[Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel]

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HI Nicolas

On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 01:56:59PM +0200, Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel (HE12025-10-13):
> > theres also:
> > https://lists.ffmpeg.org/lore/ffmpeg-devel/
> 
> This is a lot better. I do not find how to get a threaded index like we
> used to have, but it looks usable.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Could we have a link to this version in the information page of the
> list?

for this https://ffmpeg.org/contact.html#MailingLists

you can add it to git@ffmpeg.org:ffmpeg-web
you should have write access

for https://lists.ffmpeg.org/mailman3/lists/ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org/
iam not sure where to change that


thx

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: New mailing-list archive

[Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel]

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Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel (HE12025-10-16):
> for this https://ffmpeg.org/contact.html#MailingLists
> 
> you can add it to git@ffmpeg.org:ffmpeg-web
> you should have write access

Hi. Thanks for the reminder. It is not easy to add usefully, but I can
propose the attached patch.

> for https://lists.ffmpeg.org/mailman3/lists/ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org/
> iam not sure where to change that

Alas, that would be the place where it is most useful.

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>From 607f9bc14f46fbbb6f73b83f20d0688e5535a3b6 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Nicolas George <george@nsup.org>
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 19:23:15 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] contact: link to other mailing-list archive

Signed-off-by: Nicolas George <george@nsup.org>
---
 src/contact | 5 +++++
 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)

diff --git a/src/contact b/src/contact
index 6943d06..95c934d 100644
--- a/src/contact
+++ b/src/contact
@@ -64,6 +64,11 @@
           tracker).
         </a>
       </div> <!-- list-group -->
+      <div style="color: white">
+        <p>
+	  <a href="https://lists.ffmpeg.org/lore/">Alternate mailing-archive</a>
+        </p>
+      </div>
     </div> <!-- col -->
     <div class="col-md-3">
       <h3 id="MailingListArchives">
-- 
2.51.0


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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: New mailing-list archive

[compn via ffmpeg-devel]

On 2025-10-13 01:32, Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> Hi. I just went to the new archive for this mailing-list.
> 
> Is it just me or does it suck?

mailman 3 is open source. send them some patches to make it better :)

-compn
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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: New mailing-list archive

[Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel]

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Hi

On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 07:26:25PM +0100, Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel (HE12025-10-16):
> > for this https://ffmpeg.org/contact.html#MailingLists
> > 
> > you can add it to git@ffmpeg.org:ffmpeg-web
> > you should have write access
> 
> Hi. Thanks for the reminder. It is not easy to add usefully, but I can
> propose the attached patch.
> 
> > for https://lists.ffmpeg.org/mailman3/lists/ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org/
> > iam not sure where to change that
> 
> Alas, that would be the place where it is most useful.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
>   Nicolas George

>  contact |    5 +++++
>  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
> 5e9912d695a2d20dd7a2eecb10670e69cecf1fae  /var0001-contact-link-to-other-mailing-list-archive.patch
> >From 607f9bc14f46fbbb6f73b83f20d0688e5535a3b6 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Nicolas George <george@nsup.org>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 19:23:15 +0100
> Subject: [PATCH] contact: link to other mailing-list archive
> 
> Signed-off-by: Nicolas George <george@nsup.org>
> ---
>  src/contact | 5 +++++
>  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)

LGTM

thx


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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: New mailing-list archive

[Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel]

compn via ffmpeg-devel (HE12025-11-12):
> mailman 3 is open source. send them some patches to make it better :)

Proposing patches to any kind of Libre or open source software related
to mail is a study in frustration, these guys are incredibly dogmatic
for some reason.

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: New mailing-list archive

[Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel]

Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel (HE12025-11-15):
> LGTM

Thanks, pushed.

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