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no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; header-match-ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org-0; header-match-ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org-1; header-match-ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org-2; header-match-ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org-3; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Subject: [FFmpeg-devel] Re: FFmpeg "supporters" doxing List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Archived-At: Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel Cc: Yalda , Michael Niedermayer Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2982849333416276796==" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============2982849333416276796== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jKSN2p7UMuUUFUOw" Content-Disposition: inline --jKSN2p7UMuUUFUOw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Remi On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 11:31:26PM +0200, R=C3=A9mi Denis-Courmont via ffmp= eg-devel wrote: > Le keskiviikkona 29. lokakuuta 2025, 22.38.17 It=C3=A4-Euroopan normaalia= ika=20 > Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel a =C3=A9crit : > > > When did that happen? > >=20 > > Wed, 31 Jan 2024 >=20 > I can't find it any match in the archives. Besides, that was during the > previous CC and that CC (of which you were a member and I was not) found = no=20 > issues. I fail to see any sane reason to bring this up again now. >=20 > > > Doxxing is the publication of personal info against that person's wil= l - > > > not quoting some already public info. I seem to recall Kieran *asking* > > > what actual business stood at a postal address published by NAB (or w= as > > > it IBC?) under the name of "FFmpeg". > > doxxing is about identifying a specific person and exposing or amplifyi= ng > > info in a way that foreseeably invites harassment or harm. >=20 > No, that's not what doxxing is. At least according to the wiktionary it i= s=20 > either one of: >=20 > - To publish personal information of a person without their consent. > - To reveal the operator of an anonymous online account without their > consent. >=20 > Quoting an already already published public info is not publishing, and m= ore=20 > importantly, "FFmpeg" is not a person. Kieran did not doxx Thilo. This ha= s=20 > been explained to you several times. You talk like you understand legal matters and are refering to wiktionary. Thilo is in Germany, lets refer to german law: =C2=A7 126a StGB - "Gef=C3=A4hrdendes Verbreiten personenbezogener Daten." The statute criminalizes publicly disseminating another person=E2=80=99s pe= rsonal data in a manner suitable and intended to expose them (or relatives)= to crimes; it covers publicly accessible data (basic offense, up to 2 year= s) and sets a higher penalty only when the data were not publicly accessibl= e. In short: "public" !=3D "free to blast at scale." Official Bundestag analysis of =C2=A7 126a (Wissenschaftliche Dienste). Explains the law targets "Feindeslisten"/doxxing, explicitly noting that da= nger can arise even with freely researchable, publicly accessible data-henc= e criminalization. Also clarifies that publishing data of a single person s= uffices and what counts as "Verbreiten." https://www.bundestag.de/resource/blob/867640/846f1ba0205ccdd640c5a8357e655= 771/strafrechtlicher-Schutz_Feindeslisten_-126a-StGB-data.pdf > I don't need to remind you that > continuing to spread those accusations could be construed as libel. At le= ast,=20 > they validate Vittorio's recent claims that you are carrying a personal= =20 > vendetta against Kieran. >=20 > > Even a public work address can fit this >=20 > Obviously not. If it is already public then by definition it cannot be do= xxing.=20 see above > And again, the more important aspect here is that Kieran was *asking*, no= t=20 > publishing, what *business*, not person, sits at a given already publishe= d=20 The litteral text from kieran was "Who does this address belong to?" and "who" normally implies a person. All above said, if the CC refuses to act on this, obviously that proofs my = point which was that "the CC is not acting on this". May that be, because the dat= a was there in form of a question, or it was a too long ago, or whatever. While there seem to be action in other cases of doxxing. 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