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From: Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Cc: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
Subject: [FFmpeg-devel] Re: [RFC] C++
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 00:24:58 +0200
Message-ID: <aPqrOqsdo0n7QRF0@neo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <990f4657bf1b4d0e309446d66e0a8bbdb4501f4f.camel@haerdin.se>


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Hi Tomas

On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 11:49:31PM +0200, Tomas Härdin via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> ons 2025-10-22 klockan 15:05 +0200 skrev Michael Niedermayer via
> ffmpeg-devel:
> > One difference that favors lower level languages is that with
> > high level languages one looses sight of the cost of operations
> > 
> > Teh closer you are to the implementation of a data structure, like
> > if you are on the team of people who developed or maintains it.
> > The more likely you are also aware of its cost or one of the reviewer
> > would spot you doing a O(n^2) operation as if its O(1)
> 
> I'd argue the exact opposite. There are O(N²) spots in the code that
> are entirely the result of using C'isms where STL would have given you
> O(NlogN) basically for free. And where that still isn't enough there's
> std::unordered_met and the like. Complexity guarantees are part of the
> documentation for these types.

First, there are places where O(N²) is faster than O(NlogN)
And there are places where it doesnt matter.

For what remains, please open a issue and put be in the CC, not
saying ill fix em, but iam interrested

thx

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-23 22:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-20 17:50 [FFmpeg-devel] " Tomas Härdin via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-20 21:34 ` [FFmpeg-devel] " Neal Gompa via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-21  2:24 ` Lynne via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22  8:57   ` Tomas Härdin via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 10:46   ` Tomas Härdin via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-21 18:41 ` Niklas Haas via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22  3:15 ` Romain Beauxis via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22  4:19   ` InnocentZero via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22  8:24   ` Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 10:53   ` Tomas Härdin via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 12:09 ` Gregor Riepl via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 12:42   ` Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 13:07   ` Timo Rothenpieler via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 17:07     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 18:12       ` Timo Rothenpieler via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 18:50         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 17:08   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-23 21:45   ` Tomas Härdin via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22 13:05 ` Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-23 21:49   ` Tomas Härdin via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-23 22:24     ` Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel [this message]
2025-10-22 14:03 ` Leo Izen via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-21 14:47 Zhao Zhili via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-21 14:58 ` Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-21 15:31   ` Zhao Zhili via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22  1:34     ` Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22  8:11     ` Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-22  9:15       ` Zhao Zhili via ffmpeg-devel

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