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no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; header-match-ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org-0; header-match-ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org-1; header-match-ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org-2; header-match-ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org-3; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Subject: [FFmpeg-devel] Re: [POLL][VOTE] Revoke social media delegation List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Archived-At: Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel Cc: ga@ffmpeg.org, Michael Niedermayer Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0982700722438919767==" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============0982700722438919767== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eb79p1r7DjPGbS+T" Content-Disposition: inline --eb79p1r7DjPGbS+T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lynne On Sun, Oct 26, 2025 at 05:50:28PM +0100, Lynne via ffmpeg-devel wrote: [...] > I looked at the video, and I failed to understand the author's points - he The authors point is that multiple FFmpeg supporters, who have NOT said bad= things about FFmpeg at all, some who donated to FFmpeg, where pulled into agressive confrontational arguments by the official FFmpeg account. Basically the official ffmpeg account is harrasing random supporters. Whene= ver the person behind feels an itch to start an argument with someone. The complaint is not about unconventional or confrontational tone towards people being incompetent towards people having spoken badly about ffmpeg or towards some corporation its about confrontational action towards ffmpeg supporters, when they had an issue with vlc or when "ffmpeg" happened to half misread what they said. Or when they cause an itch by being associated with C++, type script or oth= er If vlc wants to confront people who complain about vlc, then vlc should use their own account for that. Its not our buisness to do that. Obviously confronting the java script community or c++ or whetevar is just inappropriate, just why would we, whats the sense of that? And we should not be confrontational towards our supporters, we simply should not be. Thats just not appropriate. If someone wants to do these things, nothing stops them from doing so with = their own personal twitter account. But not the official FFmpeg account or maybe to litterally quote one part of the video: "he cares way more about being funny on twitter than representing the proje= ct in a good light" I think this hits one of the core parts of this. These post are funny (in some sense) and they lead to engagement, but at th= e same time they are damaging FFmpegs reputation I dont think we should trade our reputation for being funny Also the followers we get from this are shallow, these followers are here f= or the funny posts, not for FFmpeg thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB You can kill me, but you cannot change the truth. --eb79p1r7DjPGbS+T Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEKAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCaP9V2wAKCRBhHseHBAsP q6pSAJ4tQwCpZFC8Z/honPRlhZlRBnFEhwCfSz7NSxg/midmxRQd2zmuxzlf5IE= =RvVa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eb79p1r7DjPGbS+T-- --===============0982700722438919767== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list -- ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org To unsubscribe send an email to ffmpeg-devel-leave@ffmpeg.org --===============0982700722438919767==--