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From: Nicolas George <george@nsup.org>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Moving edit list handling out of demuxers
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 09:17:22 +0200
Message-ID: <aFJoAsY_aVWV2Tgk@phare.normalesup.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4093cd4e835cd1829e88a8d400d482cf7e582020.camel@haerdin.se>

Tomas Härdin (HE12025-06-17):
> The present hack doesn't handle this kind of stuff correctly anyway,
> because it cannot cut audio except on frame boundaries.

Oh, the fallacious argument “if it is not perfect it is worthless”!

It is true that the current hacks cannot deliver perfect accuracy. It is
entirely false and hypocritical to pretend they do not provide valuable
service. In a lot of use cases, the small inaccuracy they impose is
perfectly negligible. This is in particular true for simple players,
whose A-V sync code will just smooth over the inaccuracy.

And before you reply that a proper API will do that without the
inaccuracy, please take the time to reflect that a new proper API will
not magically bring the features to existing applications. Applications
need to be updated to make use of the API.

What we should have is both a proper API to expose the information to
high-level applications and the current hacks to bring the feature
transparently if not perfectly to existing applications.

-- 
  Nicolas George
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-18  7:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-13 10:55 Tomas Härdin
2025-06-13 12:51 ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2025-06-13 13:28   ` Derek Buitenhuis
2025-06-13 14:34   ` Tomas Härdin
2025-06-13 14:41     ` Derek Buitenhuis
2025-06-13 14:21 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-06-13 14:53   ` Tomas Härdin
2025-06-13 14:57     ` Gyan Doshi
2025-06-17 20:42       ` Tomas Härdin
2025-06-13 16:19     ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-06-17 21:15       ` Tomas Härdin
2025-06-18  3:55         ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-06-18 10:02           ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-06-18 10:09             ` Nicolas George
2025-06-18 15:50           ` Tomas Härdin
2025-06-13 16:22     ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-06-13 14:37 ` Gyan Doshi
2025-06-17 21:33   ` Tomas Härdin
2025-06-18  4:15     ` Gyan Doshi
2025-06-18  7:17     ` Nicolas George [this message]
2025-06-13 16:57 ` Nicolas George

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