From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A5D48E7E for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 18:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5E268CE20; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 20:37:17 +0200 (EET) Received: from wfout3-smtp.messagingengine.com (wfout3-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.146]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05F9168C0A2 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 20:37:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailfout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C8E1C0007C for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 13:37:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap49 ([10.202.2.99]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 28 Feb 2024 13:37:09 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm1; t=1709145428; x=1709231828; bh=X5X4WXeJxKgYTeb1fiS06P+XzNCs AM0DrU7rAwqiZzw=; b=mS0aTAqa3TmC+xkse1EhO92ZE21KAbOgDUHr4zdpnx9y MImT+7dOefxZqQ9wmKEEb++MbBEqmoZpgyu1n/E+gGgG6ubUZEjhKLSSA88WnJoQ teVzlmkgVuSZPtkd5Jhsv0S7X38slTKg+8UkiABEDeYCNc5SnzTWBiC9+YxUdvJr Uj6m+ACvRHuCCqYc6HAa7IGOrS7erXPVD3ybWoKvIhTuow/rfuCAqOXclOwCw95v cI/NR4wQPkbNBP5DG94KFMN471aaQU2MEZRifBNH3Jt6JOUGMq1JjkfX3npy/SBT RrCv5Won2HbH2kEVdV2D/sxBhQewbLwDk59oT6CcIA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvledrgeejgdduuddtucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucgfrhhlucfvnfffucdluddtmdenucfjughrpefofg ggkfgjfhffhffvufgtsehttdertderredtnecuhfhrohhmpedflfgvrghnqdeurghpthhi shhtvgcumfgvmhhpfhdfuceojhgssehvihguvgholhgrnhdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrth htvghrnhepieeigfdvffetkeekffdvieffieejtefhveetuedtgedvgeefkefgkedtleeh fefgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepjh gssehvihguvgholhgrnhdrohhrgh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i06904239:Fastmail Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 1235215A0092; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 13:37:08 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.11.0-alpha0-182-gaab6630818-fm-20240222.002-gaab66308 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <20240228125616.458327-1-jdek@itanimul.li> <20240228125616.458327-2-jdek@itanimul.li> <20240228132943.GB6420@pb2> <87a5nk909t.fsf@itanimul.li> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 19:36:47 +0100 From: "Jean-Baptiste Kempf" To: ffmpeg-devel Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/2] avcodec: remove sonic lossy/lossless audio X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: On Wed, 28 Feb 2024, at 18:55, James Almer wrote: > On 2/28/2024 10:31 AM, J. Dekker wrote: >> >> Michael Niedermayer writes: >> >>> [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] >>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 01:56:10PM +0100, J. Dekker wrote: >>>> This was an experimental/research codec of which ffmpeg is the only >>>> encoder and decoder, >>> >>> >>>> development has stalled >>> >>> Thats not true, there was private dicussion making sonic the most >>> advanced audio codec in FFmpeg a few months ago. >>> Iam not saying that will happen, i am just saying there was a >>> discussion about it. And that iam in principle interrested in >>> working on this. Its possible i will not have enough time ... >>> >> >> The last commit which actually changed the codec was >> 6026a5ad4f135476c7a1f51f8cfa7f4cc2ca0283 by you in 2013 which is over 10 >> years ago. For an experimental codec I think it's pretty safe to say >> that development has stalled. >> >> Keeping the codec around based on 'what if?'s doesn't seem >> reasonable. Besides, if you do make sonic the most advanced audio codec >> in FFmpeg there's nothing which says you couldn't re-add it at a later >> date when it's being actively developed again. > > Does it hurt keeping it around? If it can at some point be developed > again, then removing the codec id to re-add it later will be a bit dirty. > > IMO, just disable both modules by default during configure, or tag the > encoder as experimental to prevent new streams to be created unless > explicitly requested knowing that it's an unfinished format. +1 -- Jean-Baptiste Kempf - President +33 672 704 734 _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".