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From: "Martin Storsjö" <martin@martin.st>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Cc: Ben Avison <bavison@riscosopen.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 02/10] checkasm: Add vc1dsp inverse transform tests
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 15:41:18 +0300 (EEST)
Message-ID: <a097a8a6-9ee5-13d0-211b-dae67b92c3b6@martin.st> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220325185257.513933-3-bavison@riscosopen.org>

On Fri, 25 Mar 2022, Ben Avison wrote:

> This test deliberately doesn't exercise the full range of inputs described in
> the committee draft VC-1 standard. It says:
>
> input coefficients in frequency domain, D, satisfy   -2048 <= D < 2047
> intermediate coefficients, E, satisfy                -4096 <= E < 4095
> fully inverse-transformed coefficients, R, satisfy    -512 <= R <  511
>
> For one thing, the inequalities look odd. Did they mean them to go the
> other way round? That would make more sense because the equations generally
> both add and subtract coefficients multiplied by constants, including powers
> of 2. Requiring the most-negative values to be valid extends the number of
> bits to represent the intermediate values just for the sake of that one case!
>
> For another thing, the extreme values don't look to occur in real streams -
> both in my experience and supported by the following comment in the AArch32
> decoder:
>
>    tNhalf is half of the value of tN (as described in vc1_inv_trans_8x8_c).
>    This is done because sometimes files have input that causes tN + tM to
>    overflow. To avoid this overflow, we compute tNhalf, then compute
>    tNhalf + tM (which doesn't overflow), and then we use vhadd to compute
>    (tNhalf + (tNhalf + tM)) >> 1 which does not overflow because it is
>    one instruction.
>
> My AArch64 decoder goes further than this. It calculates tNhalf and tM
> then does an SRA (essentially a fused halve and add) to compute
> (tN + tM) >> 1 without ever having to hold (tNhalf + tM) in a 16-bit element
> without overflowing. It only encounters difficulties if either tNhalf or
> tM overflow in isolation.
>
> I haven't had sight of the final standard, so it's possible that these
> issues were dealt with during finalisation, which could explain the lack
> of usage of extreme inputs in real streams. Or a preponderance of decoders
> that only support 16-bit intermediate values in their inverse transforms
> might have caused encoders to steer clear of such cases.
>
> I have effectively followed this approach in the test, and limited the
> scale of the coefficients sufficient that both the existing AArch32 decoder
> and my new AArch64 decoder both pass.
>
> Signed-off-by: Ben Avison <bavison@riscosopen.org>
> ---
> tests/checkasm/vc1dsp.c | 258 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 258 insertions(+)

The reasoning sounds sensible to me.

I didn't try to follow the exact logic for how the input data is produced, 
but it seems reasonable.

It'd be nice to unmacro the function and wrap it in a separate standalone 
test function like check_idct() in vp8dsp, check_itxfm in vp9dsp or 
check_idct in hevc_idct.c. You may want to have a deeply nested loop to 
check e.g.

     for (int w = 4; w <= 8; w += 4) {
         for (int h = 4; w <= 8; w += 4) {
             for (int dc = 0; dc <= 1; dc++) {
                 if (w == 8 && h == 8 && dc == 0)
                     continue; // Tested separately
                 [... actual test ...]
                 (or call a separate check_idct_func(w,h,dc) function
                 to avoid unnecessarily deep indentation of a lot of code)
             }
         }
     }

// Martin

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-29 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-17 18:58 [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 0/6] avcodec/vc1: Arm optimisations Ben Avison
2022-03-17 18:58 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/6] avcodec/vc1: Arm 64-bit NEON deblocking filter fast paths Ben Avison
2022-03-17 18:58 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/6] avcodec/vc1: Arm 32-bit " Ben Avison
2022-03-17 18:58 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 3/6] avcodec/vc1: Arm 64-bit NEON inverse transform " Ben Avison
2022-03-17 18:58 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 4/6] avcodec/idctdsp: Arm 64-bit NEON block add and clamp " Ben Avison
2022-03-17 18:58 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 5/6] avcodec/blockdsp: Arm 64-bit NEON block clear " Ben Avison
2022-03-17 18:58 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 6/6] avcodec/vc1: Introduce fast path for unescaping bitstream buffer Ben Avison
2022-03-18 19:10   ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2022-03-21 15:51     ` Ben Avison
2022-03-21 20:44       ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-19 23:06 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 0/6] avcodec/vc1: Arm optimisations Martin Storsjö
2022-03-19 23:07   ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-21 17:37   ` Ben Avison
2022-03-21 22:29     ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-25 18:52 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 00/10] " Ben Avison
2022-03-25 18:52   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 01/10] checkasm: Add vc1dsp in-loop deblocking filter tests Ben Avison
2022-03-25 22:53     ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-28 18:28       ` Ben Avison
2022-03-29 11:47         ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-29 12:24     ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-29 12:43     ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-25 18:52   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 02/10] checkasm: Add vc1dsp inverse transform tests Ben Avison
2022-03-29 12:41     ` Martin Storsjö [this message]
2022-03-25 18:52   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 03/10] checkasm: Add idctdsp add/put-pixels-clamped tests Ben Avison
2022-03-29 13:13     ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-29 19:56       ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-29 20:22       ` Ben Avison
2022-03-29 20:30         ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-25 18:52   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 04/10] avcodec/vc1: Introduce fast path for unescaping bitstream buffer Ben Avison
2022-03-29 20:37     ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-31 13:58       ` Ben Avison
2022-03-31 14:07         ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-25 18:52   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 05/10] avcodec/vc1: Arm 64-bit NEON deblocking filter fast paths Ben Avison
2022-03-30 12:35     ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-31 15:15       ` Ben Avison
2022-03-31 21:21         ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-25 18:52   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 06/10] avcodec/vc1: Arm 32-bit " Ben Avison
2022-03-25 19:27     ` Lynne
2022-03-25 19:49       ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-25 19:55         ` Lynne
2022-03-30 12:37     ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-30 13:03     ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-25 18:52   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 07/10] avcodec/vc1: Arm 64-bit NEON inverse transform " Ben Avison
2022-03-30 13:49     ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-30 14:01       ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-31 15:37       ` Ben Avison
2022-03-31 21:32         ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-25 18:52   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 08/10] avcodec/idctdsp: Arm 64-bit NEON block add and clamp " Ben Avison
2022-03-30 14:14     ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-31 16:47       ` Ben Avison
2022-03-31 21:42         ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-25 18:52   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 09/10] avcodec/vc1: Arm 64-bit NEON unescape fast path Ben Avison
2022-03-30 14:35     ` Martin Storsjö
2022-03-25 18:52   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 10/10] avcodec/vc1: Arm 32-bit " Ben Avison
2022-03-30 14:35     ` Martin Storsjö

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