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From: Stefano Sabatini <stefasab@gmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Cc: Marth64 <marth64@proxyid.net>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/3] avformat/dvdvideodec: add CLUT utilities and subtitle palette support
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 17:00:38 +0100
Message-ID: <ZeiTJq2lQyifX6e6@mariano> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+28BfDL6Np3WGCv+X5WDhh0eOtcE_ALB3N7zWr=kKpqbB3JMw@mail.gmail.com>

On date Wednesday 2024-03-06 09:43:26 -0600, Marth64 wrote:
> It is true that this is necessary when muxing to Matroska, but it is also
> the case for MOV - the MOV muxer expects RGB prior to converting to YUV
> again. So this would be needed for MOV also, despite the awkward conversion
> circle. I should update the document to reflect this.

So we might drop the reference to Matroska, or change to something as:

Output subtitle palettes (CLUTs) as RGB, as required for example when
for subtitles rendering in Matroska or MP4 video.
...

I assume there is no heuristic to distinguish RGB/YUV (one trick might
be to add some custom metadata for the colorspace so that it can then
be read by the encoder).

Also I wonder if this is should not rather be an option for the
Matroska/MP4 renderer, to avoid duplicating the code.

> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 09:36 Marth64 <marth64@proxyid.net> wrote:
> 
> > Good morning,
> >
> > DVD subtitle palettes, which are natively YUV, are currently carried as
> > a hex string in their respective subtitle streams and have
> > no concept of colorspace tagging (even predating dvd demuxer). The
> > convention is to convert
> > them to RGB prior to storage. Common players will only render
> > the palettes properly if they are stored as RGB. Even ffmpeg itself
> > expects this, and already does -in libavformat- the YUV-RGB conversions,
> > specifically in mov.c and movenc.c.
> >
> > The point of this patch is to provide a consolidation of the code
> > that deals with creating the extradata as well as the RGB conversion.
> > That can then (1) enable usable palette support for DVD demuxer if it is
> > merged
> > and (2) start the process of consolidating the related conversions in
> > MOV muxer/demuxer and eventually find a way to properly tag
> > the colorspace.
> >
> > Thank you!
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-06 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-06  7:19 Marth64
2024-03-06  7:19 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/3] avformat/dvdvideodec: add menu demuxing support Marth64
2024-03-06 15:41   ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-03-06 16:35     ` Marth64
2024-03-06  7:19 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 3/3] avformat/dvdvideodec: assign mono channel layout explicitly Marth64
2024-03-06 15:10   ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-03-06 15:37     ` Marth64
2024-03-06 15:09 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/3] avformat/dvdvideodec: add CLUT utilities and subtitle palette support Stefano Sabatini
2024-03-06 15:17   ` Timo Rothenpieler
2024-03-06 15:36     ` Marth64
2024-03-06 15:43       ` Marth64
2024-03-06 16:00         ` Stefano Sabatini [this message]
2024-03-07  9:53       ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-07 10:36         ` Andreas Rheinhardt

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