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From: Matthieu Bouron <matthieu.bouron@gmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Add protocol for Android content providers
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 08:17:11 +0100
Message-ID: <Zd2MdyhcCYZ0ZqwG@kusa> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZdnTFPG9xEWS4OYj@kusa>

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 12:29:24PM +0100, Matthieu Bouron wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 10:13:03AM +0100, Matthieu Bouron wrote:
> > Le jeu. 15 févr. 2024, 9:46 AM, Zhao Zhili <quinkblack@foxmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> > 
> > >
> > > > 在 2024年2月15日,下午3:57,Matthieu Bouron <matthieu.bouron@gmail.com> 写道:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 12:13:59PM +0800, Zhao Zhili wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>> On Feb 14, 2024, at 06:50, Matthieu Bouron <matthieu.bouron@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hi,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Android, content providers are used for accessing files through
> > > shared
> > > >>> mechanisms. One typical case would be an app willing to open a video
> > > from
> > > >>> Google Photos, gallery apps, TikTok, Instagram or some other providers.
> > > >>> A content URI looks something like "content://authority/path/id", see:
> > > >>> https://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/ContentUris
> > > >>>
> > > https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/providers/content-provider-basics
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It can currently be somehow managed through clumsy means such as using
> > > a "fd:"
> > > >>> filename and crafting a special AVOption, which also has the drawback
> > > of
> > > >>> requiring the third party to carry around opened file descriptors
> > > (with the
> > > >>> multiple opened file limitations implied). Custom AVIOContexts are
> > > also an
> > > >>
> > > >> File descriptor is a general abstraction layer, it target more
> > > platforms than
> > > >> Android specific content provider. Android provided getFd() API since
> > > API
> > > >> level 12, I guess that’s the default method to deal with content
> > > provider in
> > > >> native code. It’s a few lines of code to get native fd in Java, but
> > > dozens of code
> > > >> in C with JNI, which is what this patchset done.
> > > >>
> > > >> For multiple opened file limitations issue, they can close the file
> > > descriptor after
> > > >> open. It’s unlikely to reach the limit in normal case without leak.
> > > >>
> > > >> I’m OK to provide this android_content_protocol helper if user requests.
> > > >
> > > > I've been doing this kind of work for 3/4 users (including myself) at
> > > this
> > > > point and have to do it another time, this is what motivated me to
> > > propose
> > > > this patchset.
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>> option. Both options will have to deal with the JNI though and end
> > > users will
> > > >>> have to re-implement the same exact thing.
> > > >>
> > > >> User still need to deal with JNI with the new android_content_protocol,
> > > more or
> > > >> less, it’s unavoidable.
> > > >
> > > > The advantage I see of using this protocol is that the user only need to
> > > > call av_jni_set_jvm() + av_jni_set_android_app_ctx() at the start of the
> > > > application and FFmpeg will handle the content-uri transparently. This is
> > > > especially helpful if the Android application rely on multiple libraries
> > > > that in turn rely on FFmpeg to read medias.
> > >
> > > The url still need to be passed from Java to C via JNI, it’s not much
> > > different compared to pass fd.
> > >
> > 
> > It's not that much different I agree. But let's say you have a rendering
> > engine (in C) where you need to pass hundreds of media (from the user) to
> > render a scene, each media is used at different time during the rendering.
> > And Ffmpeg is not a direct dependency and can be called from different
> > libraries/places used by the rendering engine. Calling
> > av_jni_set_android_app_ctx() and you're done, you can pass the content URI
> > to the engine (passing fd at this stage is not an option imho). You still
> > need to convert the uri from java string to c before calling the c code,
> > but it's a direct translation which is typically part of a binding.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This patchset addresses this by adding a content provider protocol,
> > > which has
> > > >>> an API fairly similar to fopen. Android 11 appears to provide something
> > > >>> transparent within fopen(), but FFmpeg doesn't use it in the file
> > > protocol, and
> > > >>> Android < 11 are still widely used.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The first part move the JNI infrastructure from avcodec to avutil (it
> > > remains
> > > >>> internally shared, there is little user implication),
> > > >>
> > > >> OK. JNI infrastructure should belong to avutil at the first place, so
> > > hwcontext_mediacodec
> > > >> and so on can use it. Unfortunately for those new avpriv_.
> > > >
> > > > What do you mean by "Unfortunately" ? Would you like to make the JNI API
> > > > public ?
> > >
> > > I think it’s our target to reduce the number of avpriv API, not increase
> > > it. Does duplicate the compile unit work in this case so we don’t need to
> > > export the symbols?
> > >
> > 
> > Directly including ffjni.c from libavformat/file.c works. We still need to
> > pass the application context though (could be added to avcodec/jni.h)
> 
> So what would be the preferred way forward ? including libavformat/file.c or
> migrating the code to avutil (avpriv_*) ?

Ping (sorry to ping this early, I'd like to not miss the 7.0 window,
especially if we choose the avpriv_ route).

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-27  7:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-13 22:50 Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-13 22:50 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/7] avcodec: move ffjni to avutil/jniutils Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-14 18:18   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-14 22:23     ` Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-14 23:31   ` Mark Thompson
2024-02-15  7:40     ` Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-13 22:50 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/7] avutil: add av_jni_{get, set}_android_app_ctx helper Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-27 13:42   ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2024-02-27 14:46     ` Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-13 22:50 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 3/7] avformat: add Android content resolver protocol support Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-13 22:50 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 4/7] avutil/jni: use size_t to store structure offsets Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-13 22:50 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 5/7] avutil/jni: remove unnecessary NULL checks before calling DeleteLocalRef() Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-13 22:50 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 6/7] avcodec/mediacodec_wrapper: use an OFFSET() macro where relevant Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-13 22:50 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 7/7] avcodec/mediacodec_wrapper: remove unnecessary NULL checks before calling Delete{Global, Local}Ref() Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-15  4:13 ` [FFmpeg-devel] Add protocol for Android content providers Zhao Zhili
2024-02-15  7:57   ` Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-15  8:46     ` Zhao Zhili
2024-02-15  9:13       ` Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-24 11:29         ` Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-27  7:17           ` Matthieu Bouron [this message]
2024-02-27 13:14             ` Zhao Zhili
2024-02-27 13:19               ` Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-27 14:50 ` [FFmpeg-devel] Add protocol for Android content providers (v2) Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-27 14:50   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 1/6] avcodec: add av_jni_{get, set}_android_app_ctx helper Matthieu Bouron
2024-03-04 11:30     ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2024-03-04 15:11       ` Matthieu Bouron
2024-03-04 16:35         ` Matthieu Bouron
2024-03-04 19:36           ` Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-27 14:50   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 2/6] avformat: add Android content resolver protocol support Matthieu Bouron
2024-03-04 19:37     ` Matthieu Bouron
2024-03-17  4:33       ` Zhao Zhili
2024-03-17 22:34         ` Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-27 14:50   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 3/6] avutil/jni: use size_t to store structure offsets Matthieu Bouron
2024-03-04 20:10     ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2024-03-05  7:58       ` Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-27 14:50   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 4/6] avutil/jni: remove unnecessary NULL checks before calling DeleteLocalRef() Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-27 14:50   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 5/6] avcodec/mediacodec_wrapper: use an OFFSET() macro where relevant Matthieu Bouron
2024-02-27 14:50   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 6/6] avcodec/mediacodec_wrapper: remove unnecessary NULL checks before calling Delete{Global, Local}Ref() Matthieu Bouron
2024-03-04  8:21   ` [FFmpeg-devel] Add protocol for Android content providers (v2) Matthieu Bouron
2024-03-14  8:04     ` Matthieu Bouron
2024-03-17 22:28   ` [FFmpeg-devel] Add protocol for Android content providers (v4) Matthieu Bouron
2024-03-17 22:28     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 1/6] avcodec: add av_jni_{get, set}_android_app_ctx helper Matthieu Bouron
2024-03-17 22:38       ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2024-03-17 22:43         ` Matthieu Bouron
2024-03-17 22:28     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 2/6] avformat: add Android content resolver protocol support Matthieu Bouron
2024-03-17 22:28     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 3/6] avcodec/jni: use size_t to store structure offsets Matthieu Bouron
2024-03-17 22:28     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 4/6] avcodec/jni: remove unnecessary NULL checks before calling DeleteLocalRef() Matthieu Bouron
2024-03-17 22:28     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 5/6] avcodec/mediacodec_wrapper: use an OFFSET() macro where relevant Matthieu Bouron
2024-03-17 22:28     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 6/6] avcodec/mediacodec_wrapper: remove unnecessary NULL checks before calling Delete{Global, Local}Ref() Matthieu Bouron
2024-03-19 17:49     ` [FFmpeg-devel] Add protocol for Android content providers (v4) Matthieu Bouron
2024-03-23 10:40       ` Matthieu Bouron

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