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From: Stefano Sabatini <stefasab@gmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 7/8] fftools/ffmpeg_demux: implement -bsf for input
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2024 20:15:46 +0100
Message-ID: <Za1tYtnLsLM6tbR6@mariano> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <170586210136.8914.15904763128533295371@lain.khirnov.net>

On date Sunday 2024-01-21 19:35:01 +0100, Anton Khirnov wrote:
> Quoting Stefano Sabatini (2024-01-21 19:22:35)
> > On date Sunday 2024-01-21 18:43:36 +0100, Anton Khirnov wrote:
> > > Quoting Stefano Sabatini (2024-01-20 12:32:42)
> > [...]
> > > > When you present an example you usually start with an explanation
> > > > (what it does) and then present the command, not the other way around.
> > > 
> > > I don't, neither does most literature I can recall. Typically you first
> > > present a thing, then explain its structure. Explaning the structure of
> > > something the reader has not seen yet is backwards, unnatural, and hard
> > > to understand.
> > 
> > I still don't understand what "literature" you are referring to.
> 
> Various manuals and textbooks I've read.
> 
> > If you see most examples in the FFmpeg docs they are in the form:
> 

> Our documentation is widely considered to be somewhere between atrocious
> and unusable

nah, it's not so bad, also this applies to most documentation

Besides FFmpeg is possibly the most sophisticated existing toolkit in
terms of features/configuration, so this is somehow expected (at least
if you expect a tutorial rather than a reference).

> (and sometimes actively misleading), so the fact that it
> does something in a specific way does not at all mean that it's a good
> idea.

So what do you propose instead? The fact that it is not perfect does
not mean that everything is bad.
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-21 19:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-05 16:42 [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/8] fftools/ffmpeg_demux: replace abort() by av_assert0(0) Anton Khirnov
2024-01-05 16:42 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/8] doc/ffmpeg: drop documentation for non-existent -sbsf Anton Khirnov
2024-01-06 11:22   ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-01-05 16:42 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 3/8] fftools/ffmpeg_demux: do not set bitexact directly on the decoder Anton Khirnov
2024-01-06 11:24   ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-01-05 16:42 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 4/8] fftools/ffmpeg_demux: set options on codec parameters rather than decoder Anton Khirnov
2024-01-06 11:31   ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-01-06 14:22   ` James Almer
2024-01-16 19:49     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-01-16 22:37       ` James Almer
2024-01-05 16:42 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 5/8] fftools/ffmpeg_demux: only allocate the decoder when actually decoding Anton Khirnov
2024-01-06 11:34   ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-01-16 19:50     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-01-05 16:42 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 6/8] fftools/ffmpeg_demux: add demuxing thread private data Anton Khirnov
2024-01-06 11:44   ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-01-16 19:52     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-01-05 16:42 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 7/8] fftools/ffmpeg_demux: implement -bsf for input Anton Khirnov
2024-01-06 12:12   ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-01-17  9:02     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-01-20 11:32       ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-01-21 17:43         ` Anton Khirnov
2024-01-21 18:22           ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-01-21 18:35             ` Anton Khirnov
2024-01-21 19:15               ` Stefano Sabatini [this message]
2024-01-22  8:57                 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-01-05 16:42 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 8/8] fftools/ffmpeg_opt: mark -stream_group as expert option Anton Khirnov
2024-01-06 12:12   ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-01-06 11:18 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/8] fftools/ffmpeg_demux: replace abort() by av_assert0(0) Stefano Sabatini

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