From: Nicolas George <george@nsup.org>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: remove myself from FFmpeg
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 14:11:50 +0100
Message-ID: <ZYGWllrMC5BVHmLk@phare.normalesup.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2910608.e9J7NaK4W3@basile.remlab.net>
Rémi Denis-Courmont (12023-12-07):
> You have had heated arguments against Paul in recent times too. You have also
> argued a lot of exercising your review privileges, which sounds like a very
> libavish notion to me
Only because you were not there at the time to get a first-hand
impression. That patches should be reviewed if possible was the policy
way before libav. That came with a set of implicit rules: waiting a few
days, then pinging, then waiting a few days and only then pushing
without review. The role of maintainer would affect the reasonable value
for “a few” days.
Paul insistence on pushing after barely 24 hours on code with a
maintainer that is not him always contradicting the way of doing things.
Furthermore, his refusal to give more time to the maintainer when asked
to is not just that: it is a level of rudeness and incivility
incompatible with working together with other people.
But Paul's attitude was annoying but never a real problem: resist his
eagerness a little and soon he finds something else to do and forgets
about pushing immediately for weeks or months.
For reference, libav turned the practice that patches should be reviewed
into a hard rule that patches must be reviewed. At the same time, since
they had kicked out or disgusted a significant part of the projects'
maintainers, they had nobody capable of actually reviewing the code. As
a result, when a patch was proposed by a major libav contributor, after
the ping somebody else who did not know the code would post a clueless
“LGTM”.
(The online archives of libav-devel seem to have disappeared, so I
cannot link to the example I bookmarked.)
--
Nicolas George
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-19 13:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-07 7:29 Paul B Mahol
2023-12-07 8:54 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-12-07 8:59 ` Nicolas George
2023-12-07 9:06 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-12-07 9:10 ` Nicolas George
2023-12-07 9:12 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-12-07 9:14 ` Nicolas George
2023-12-07 9:16 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-12-07 14:59 ` Leo Izen
2023-12-07 16:32 ` Nicolas George
2023-12-07 16:48 ` Leo Izen
2023-12-07 16:39 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-12-19 13:11 ` Nicolas George [this message]
2023-12-19 20:34 ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-12-20 9:17 ` Nicolas George
2023-12-07 12:32 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-12-07 14:29 ` Ronald S. Bultje
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