From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2704D4853C for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2023 20:47:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1238068CA71; Wed, 6 Dec 2023 22:47:44 +0200 (EET) Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.40]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BEBB68C1DF for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2023 22:47:37 +0200 (EET) X-ENS-nef-client: 129.199.129.80 ( name = phare.normalesup.org ) Received: from phare.normalesup.org (phare.normalesup.org [129.199.129.80]) by nef.ens.fr (8.14.4/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id 3B6Klafn017197 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2023 21:47:37 +0100 Received: by phare.normalesup.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B6A0EEB5BB; Wed, 6 Dec 2023 21:47:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2023 21:47:36 +0100 From: Nicolas George To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: References: <20231202155352.4680-1-anton@khirnov.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 06 Dec 2023 21:47:37 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] lavc: remove the QOA decoder X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5176786287426695349==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============5176786287426695349== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YLFalLjQF6nj7Ql2" Content-Disposition: inline --YLFalLjQF6nj7Ql2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Vittorio Giovara (12023-12-05): > Your attitude for "omgfeatures" is also pretty toxic, there are heaps of > literature about feature creep and how important it is to remove dead cod= e. You should read said literature before quoting it, you would learn the difference between more features and feature creep: creeping features make it harder to maintain core features. So, can you prove that this QOA decoder makes it harder to maintain the framework of FFmpeg? No, you cannot. > Uhhh, but maybe I'm just misinterpreting your message, but that looks like > a very ignorant comparison. It is not ignorant at all, you show exactly the same argument structure. Homophobes cannot prove homosexuality causes objective and immediate harm to anybody. You cannot prove that Paul's code causes objective and immediate harm to the project. So homophobes resort to invoking a vague harm to society / youth / whatever. So you resort to invoking a vague harm to a generation. You do it because you have a strong intuition that it is true. Homophobes have a strong intuition that it is true too. But intuition without arguments has no place in a debate, it cannot convince anybody. And your intuition is just as wrong as the homophobes'. In this instance, your intuition is wrong because it applies to FFmpeg what it knows about professional projects =E2=80=94 open or closed source = =E2=80=94 whereas FFmpeg is not a professional project but a Libre Software projects whose most talented contributors work for fun. In a professional project, the time and effort of developers is limited and must be focused on useful things. In a project like FFmpeg, the time and effort that talented developers invest in the project grows as they can work on fun tasks, even when said tasks are of limited usefulness. A sure way of killing a project like FFmpeg is to prevent people from working on the things they find fun and try to force them to do useful things instead, either by outright rejecting if you have the authority or by drowning them with bickering and demands, like you did with Michael and like you just ran Paul out. Good job. --=20 Nicolas George --YLFalLjQF6nj7Ql2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE6ooRQGBoNzw0KnwPcZVLI8pNxgwFAmVw3eYACgkQcZVLI8pN xgwaFQ//XyMCZ3+4R+0AENbrfqFPsXxZfMc33OO6k/EDhmLziTYTD2/pyPyPkd+J +nizQEW6K5Ox+03FEIu37FrrunFr84ZI3FETYdR7xnbuqDzxm/gtHibEIQyUodVt F/bJBElIuP3DQjJ36NsIXnzJWDYqc9NpKWnDo+bbnP+M8RwFhOFCa5jdgiA0ON1q xAhcs2r/Z15wCbgwdQN/NgXJZejUsp+vtBc2n8dqECkCTlABn9VLJ6xuZP5gPVvc p62fNvTKms1egBMikYHCi2RsL6XFctzbDKqIiq05zmDeHwR+cpiptnIFZN1hq5VA Jm0P2fnWeAt31FigOvStBVMJe2dWCi/QhvWpyJjqxGE3UusLNGJ/m+VIMzCsO6AO MGnetbQ/b4vgxM1eUyDWavLh5GVQC0r+976mUMDPqHyWqc7KdE9w1mZ7xq9wH1C0 8Baf11KsZTpfFyo5QMo33Smhhb0vIMJvypDdOdc5WkDfhtcLA+vN4FTmp6b2Evxd znGp0OA0CUq9rnVRD3uKaUBJL0rNpeA+ksNKO7/nLjJ+kKrFYkxg09XSMCCGtiXs 6Mv0ClWbr1uRe+ncCSTYfC8hIMj7KY1yku8y+Oi4aJF/pJKbFYymLvYr4J4Hr0iG mZFGV92si0QabVpjSiHwmLAEbdGZ4mv+GRN8R6O5qLVW560grgA= =DFQs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YLFalLjQF6nj7Ql2-- --===============5176786287426695349== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============5176786287426695349==--