From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8436846ABD for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2023 19:52:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5F068C4BB; Sun, 2 Jul 2023 22:52:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.40]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E709D68C3D0 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2023 22:52:13 +0300 (EEST) X-ENS-nef-client: 129.199.129.80 ( name = phare.normalesup.org ) Received: from phare.normalesup.org (phare.normalesup.org [129.199.129.80]) by nef.ens.fr (8.14.4/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id 362JqD4j012418 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2023 21:52:13 +0200 Received: by phare.normalesup.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1BA6AEB5BC; Sun, 2 Jul 2023 21:52:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2023 21:52:13 +0200 From: Nicolas George To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: References: <20230628212504.2522567-1-michael@niedermayer.cc> <20230630140838.GA1093384@pb2> <4f0dc1-fb9b-a532-05a-6e8e1debfe91@martin.st> <6eef9d8b-695b-484b-b720-fed1e66d1401@app.fastmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sun, 02 Jul 2023 21:52:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v6 0/1] avformat: add Software Defined Radio support X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9117523192766776760==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============9117523192766776760== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NHCuFDt2ghPevYOS" Content-Disposition: inline --NHCuFDt2ghPevYOS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lynne (12023-07-02): > git master is not a playground, but it is certainly a place for developers > to experiment with ideas they're *seriously* exploring. >=20 > Sonic and Snow were experiments. They didn't work out, but nevertheless, > they made their mark on the status quo of compression research at the tim= e. >=20 > FFV1 was an experiment. It worked out, being an IETF standard. > The native mpeg encoders were experiments. They worked out, and their > rate control system largely inspired x264's rate control systems. > The DNN filtering stuff was an experiment. It didn't work out.The native = Opus encoder was an experiment, and it holds up well against > libopus, if a bit slow and misguided. > The AAC encoder was always an experiment. Did it work out? Let's > find out after the third rewrite :) Thanks for the history. This is what I called a playground for hackers; a rose by any other name. > As for libavsdr? Time will tell. But it's certainly got a niche to fill, > as currently, you have to setup large and complex gnuradio filterchains. > But, I would prefer for it to be in a separate repository. I have a hard time understanding this preference, for both avradio and avstream. Moving to a separate repository requires you to maintain a separate build system, separate tests, etc. It also means only enthusiast users will download and install the library, thus greatly reducing both its usefulness and its changes of getting off the ground. It seems to me like a lose-lose situation. I can understand why people only interested in their short-term revenue stream would object, but people who work on them I do not understand. Can you explain? 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