From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878D843BEA for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 12:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F9E68B92B; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 15:43:18 +0300 (EEST) Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.40]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41D4068B4BB for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 15:43:12 +0300 (EEST) X-ENS-nef-client: 129.199.129.80 ( name = phare.normalesup.org ) Received: from phare.normalesup.org (phare.normalesup.org [129.199.129.80]) by nef.ens.fr (8.14.4/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id 27MChBs7012016 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 14:43:11 +0200 Received: by phare.normalesup.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 68156E0101; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 14:43:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 14:43:11 +0200 From: Nicolas George To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: References: <20220817214932.42351-1-george@nsup.org> <8dfccf24-012a-4ac6-beba-dc9c0f0d59e3@beta.fastmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8dfccf24-012a-4ac6-beba-dc9c0f0d59e3@beta.fastmail.com> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 22 Aug 2022 14:43:11 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] doc/plans: add a file to list approved projects X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5197220281822939825==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============5197220281822939825== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2PKI0UgbTOZSGyGP" Content-Disposition: inline --2PKI0UgbTOZSGyGP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jean-Baptiste Kempf (12022-08-19): > Exactly. This is called the bus-factor and is important in all > volunteers open source communities. >=20 > Which is why the norm is "show us the code" and not wait for future > things. >=20 > Because as we are volunteers working when we can, shit happens in real > life, so you cannot block a project with future plans until they are > done. Because maybe it's a 6months time or a 2 years time, or never. > And then you never ship your software. > For the same reason, something "ready to merge, not optimal but better > than the current state" is Always better than "I'll do an optimal > solution in 3 years". Especially since the first solution does not > block the latter one. I do not agree with this absolutist statement. There is a balance to find between quick-and-dirty solutions that make further enhancements harder and vague plans on the comet. Anyway, this does not apply to AVWriter since the only things it is blocking are my own projects. Also, AVWriter is in greatest part done. > Therefore, I don't think those plans documents are useful: "show us > the code!". Try this with your plumber: =E2=80=9CShow me my shower fixed and I'll pay y= ou if I'm satisfied.=E2=80=9D It does not work that way, you have to sign a sales quote before the plumber gets to work. This is the kind of mechanism I want to find for FFmpeg. I have asked you to clarify your previous suggestion: Are you suggesting that I propose the headers and documentation for AVWriter, that we discuss it and hopefully push it before investing more time in the implementation? Please answer. 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