From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D5D43E00 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2022 14:09:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2565B68B956; Mon, 15 Aug 2022 17:09:36 +0300 (EEST) Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.40]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67D54680105 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2022 17:09:29 +0300 (EEST) X-ENS-nef-client: 129.199.129.80 ( name = phare.normalesup.org ) Received: from phare.normalesup.org (phare.normalesup.org [129.199.129.80]) by nef.ens.fr (8.14.4/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id 27FE9SFM014541 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2022 16:09:28 +0200 Received: by phare.normalesup.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7745CE0101; Mon, 15 Aug 2022 16:09:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 16:09:28 +0200 From: Nicolas George To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: References: <20220811201834.GE2088045@pb2> <7ce22e69-d0ad-16b7-52c6-0a447ce05be2@rothenpieler.org> <20220812150517.GI2088045@pb2> <20220812171843.GL2088045@pb2> <20220813162923.GN2088045@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20220813162923.GN2088045@pb2> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 15 Aug 2022 16:09:28 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] ipfsgateway: Remove default gateway X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6227068964848554684==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============6227068964848554684== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Mm5S3ZMvpD4YwcDJ" Content-Disposition: inline --Mm5S3ZMvpD4YwcDJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Niedermayer (12022-08-13): > what iam a bit "upset" about is that running a IPFS node is presented as > if that was more private than using a gateway. I do not think it was suggested that it was more private and/or secure. A more accurate and detailed statement of the issue is that both solution raise concerns about security and privacy, but not the same, and users must be allowed a chance to make an informed decision between using one, the other or none at all depending on their situation. Furthermore, this protocol has not been around virtually forever, we cannot assume users just already know about these issues and will think of them as soon as they see ipfs://. It is an argument for this to NOT just work out-of-the-box and instead require some setting up by users. And if users search on the web and take any random gateway they find, or copy-paste a command-line they found somewhere instead, it is nor our problem, because the web has been around virtually forever, and people should know better by now than trusting anything they find. As for what to do now, I suggest we approve Derek's patch removing the default gateway, and discuss the rest after. Regards, --=20 Nicolas George --Mm5S3ZMvpD4YwcDJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE6ooRQGBoNzw0KnwPcZVLI8pNxgwFAmL6U5YACgkQcZVLI8pN xgz0PxAAr1pfFw2dBGk+zGWL2fjg4l7d8NUCh6/4NB/UvWZ/M6RsPwH3jK1b7YKP UbsvRCRHF+eQP2eVQeaf00xIr+k62pq1v/onY0M2WdphLyL3mSYH4lmGYNwWR8S5 fdcUdnPg0i4Y1YQW60/oRvgT93NeTfwqJudEE31lP7aguQULHptlbXQtwMWzRYNs ZJ4U0oGe6BG2xW+ub/1vmZeUzXu81p1XZmeJVoNyt9ATwoP913Y/bXnS20PK6rqg Wy1XnVJxk3mvItBkO4QVOd/SPP0sSN85gm4F9/xbD5FVd3gGDeqnWzKJFJ8YZ3Ev 1e95G6LDdfzYmGFswbbIE3LYSScILf09smXAAVKPflB+dNG9l4J+fj6ZmZwnEiGQ IrjVEl3/2/JdbdGi3ZCvmVVxJN9BULeMPQVuZuFaiQ/vpz8XWrWPgp5WBDsoS6gP Qr1ucEvP8XcjIX7QJtgXgYB5w5PVeN7TdhDMiuExhAqpF4mFQV1KQXF3psx+aZVj FR6/3sBMEK+aaJqNc73kCjT0facCbq1s0huJOkfxWo7TxSOEzDYurCutBVJfC+NO ZSUUGk/64xI0njVLIA/mY3OMU9hLm7u28J7R/sWhIRAp7ellgXkVMFJ5hJMlpnf0 7L8DvqBbteIHdPT1GTsfz7aDghOpzoS+EcXUbY9/4oM87TqWGuk= =PHn3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Mm5S3ZMvpD4YwcDJ-- --===============6227068964848554684== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============6227068964848554684==--