From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A20A42C12 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922C268AD5F; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:47:43 +0200 (EET) Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.40]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5727568A55A for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:47:37 +0200 (EET) X-ENS-nef-client: 129.199.129.80 ( name = phare.normalesup.org ) Received: from phare.normalesup.org (phare.normalesup.org [129.199.129.80]) by nef.ens.fr (8.14.4/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id 20CGla0Y016440 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:47:36 +0100 Received: by phare.normalesup.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5B7ACEB5BC; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:47:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:47:36 +0100 From: Nicolas George To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: References: <20220108163012.GF2829255@pb2> <20220112163051.GJ2829255@pb2> <5d0d367d-c794-682f-febe-d167e828b316@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5d0d367d-c794-682f-febe-d167e828b316@gmail.com> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:47:36 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 blocking issues X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6422742125595863770==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============6422742125595863770== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ETdnFty87wPgLCy3" Content-Disposition: inline --ETdnFty87wPgLCy3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable James Almer (12022-01-12): > I think it should be more like, as release manager, he decides when to cu= t a > branch and when to tag a release within that branch, and in either case > giving a warning with some time in advance. > Saying "Anything else?" then waiting for people and constantly postponing > tagging is not going to work. And it's not the first time this happens. >=20 > Right now the branch is made and and the feature set frozen, and anything > that could be backported can wait until 5.0.1. Cutting the branch is when > interested parties should spoke and be hasty as that means a feature free= ze. > But right now, the release can and should be made whenever Michael wants = to. I agree with that. My point is more general: Michael takes up the boring tasks that "need" to be made so that FFmpeg can be considered a "serious" project, even though he does not enjoy them and he admits he is not good at them. I consider this a toxic configuration. FFmpeg does not "need" to be a "serious" project, we just need free time to write beautiful and efficient code. It is other projects, projects who use FFmpeg, who need it. We already give good, free code, and they want more, API stability and backports and security maintenance. I say: if you want it, pay somebody to do it. (Not me, I am not interested, that is my point.) This is reminiscent of the reaction of corporate drones to the log4j bugs: they expected free maintenance. 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