From: "Clément Bœsch" <u@pkh.me>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Rework color quantization in palette{gen,use}
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2022 13:11:54 +0100
Message-ID: <Y7AnCrS7wMyS1sv4@ssq0.pkh.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221106173022.GX1814017@pb2>
On Sun, Nov 06, 2022 at 06:30:22PM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 06, 2022 at 06:09:41PM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 05, 2022 at 04:26:02PM +0100, Clément Bœsch wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This patchset essentially fixes a few core problems in these filters and
> > > switches to a perceptual model.
> > >
> > > I've generated a report for each key commit on this (temporary) page:
> > > http://big.pkh.me/pal/ (warning: heavy page, ~500M; I did try to add some lazy
> > > loading of the images but I'm not sure it's actually working as expected).
> >
> > i just looked at file00 and 16 and 64 colors with dither for it and they look
> > different, some areas look better before and some better afterwards
>
> looked at more of the 16 color cases with dither
> (16 colors as i asumed fewer would magnify any issues )
> file 01, IMHO current looks better than last (variance per axis)
> file 02, IMHO current looks better than last (variance per axis)
> file 03, IMHO VPA looks better but both really are quite off in terms of color,
> thats not the color of the original image.
> file 04, VPA is not good thats not the correct color
>
> It seems th last (variance per axis) is more pale and looses color
So I did a lot of experiments, and the explanation for the desaturated
output at low number of colors can be found at the end of this article:
http://blog.pkh.me/p/39-improving-color-quantization-heuristics.html
I still think it's acceptable to lean toward desaturated colors when
reducing the number of colors, but you may disagree.
Regards,
--
Clément B.
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2022-11-05 15:26 Clément Bœsch
2022-11-05 15:26 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 01/15] Revert "avfilter/vf_palette(gen|use): support palettes with alpha" Clément Bœsch
2022-11-05 15:26 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 02/15] avfilter: add palette utils Clément Bœsch
2022-11-05 15:26 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 03/15] avfilter/palette{use, gen}: simplify a few alpha masks Clément Bœsch
2022-11-05 15:26 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 04/15] avfilter/paletteuse: switch from u8[4] to u32 for color code Clément Bœsch
2022-11-05 15:26 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 05/15] avfilter/paletteuse: name target color arg consistently in colormap functions Clément Bœsch
2022-11-05 15:26 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 06/15] avfilter/paletteuse: remove unused alpha split dimension Clément Bœsch
2022-11-05 15:26 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 07/15] avfilter/paletteuse: remove redundant alpha condition Clément Bœsch
2022-11-05 15:26 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 08/15] avfilter/paletteuse: switch to a perceptual model Clément Bœsch
2022-11-05 15:26 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 09/15] avfilter/palettegen: average color in linear space Clément Bœsch
2022-11-05 15:39 ` Paul B Mahol
2022-11-05 18:50 ` Clément Bœsch
2022-11-05 15:26 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 10/15] avfilter/palettegen: move box variance computation in a dedicated function Clément Bœsch
2022-11-05 15:26 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 11/15] avfilter/palettegen: comment on the unnormalized variance Clément Bœsch
2022-11-05 15:26 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 12/15] avfilter/palettegen: base split decision on a perceptual model Clément Bœsch
2022-11-05 19:07 ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2022-11-08 21:09 ` Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:20 ` Clément Bœsch
2022-11-05 15:26 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 13/15] avfilter/palettegen: use variance per-axis instead of the range Clément Bœsch
2022-11-05 15:26 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 14/15] avfilter/palettegen: rename longest to split_axis Clément Bœsch
2022-11-05 15:26 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 15/15] avfilter/palette{use, gen}: update Copyright after recent changes Clément Bœsch
2022-11-05 15:44 ` [FFmpeg-devel] Rework color quantization in palette{gen,use} Paul B Mahol
2022-11-05 18:54 ` Clément Bœsch
2022-11-06 13:19 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2022-11-08 21:22 ` Clément Bœsch
2022-11-05 21:52 ` Soft Works
2022-11-06 17:09 ` Michael Niedermayer
2022-11-06 17:30 ` Michael Niedermayer
2022-11-08 21:14 ` Clément Bœsch
2022-12-31 12:11 ` Clément Bœsch [this message]
2023-01-02 21:57 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-01-02 23:05 ` Clément Bœsch
2023-01-03 18:50 ` Michael Niedermayer
2022-11-06 19:46 ` Soft Works
2022-11-08 21:07 ` Clément Bœsch
2022-11-08 22:37 ` Soft Works
2022-12-27 23:31 ` Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] New iteration for the color quantization in palette{gen, use} Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 01/32] avfilter/palettegen: allow a minimum of 2 colors Clément Bœsch
2022-12-28 21:04 ` Tomas Härdin
2022-12-28 21:23 ` Clément Bœsch
2023-01-03 18:59 ` Tomas Härdin
2022-12-27 23:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 02/32] avfilter/palette{gen, use}: revert support palettes with alpha Clément Bœsch
2023-01-03 19:11 ` Paul B Mahol
2022-12-27 23:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 03/32] avfilter/palette{gen, use}: simplify a few alpha masks Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 04/32] avfilter/palette{gen, use}: add palette utils Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 05/32] avfilter/paletteuse: switch from u8[4] to u32 for color code Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 06/32] avfilter/paletteuse: name target color arg consistently in colormap functions Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 07/32] avfilter/paletteuse: remove unused alpha split dimension Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 08/32] avfilter/paletteuse: remove redundant alpha condition Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 09/32] avfilter/paletteuse: switch to a perceptual model Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 10/32] avfilter/palettegen: move box stats computation to a dedicated function Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 11/32] avfilter/palettegen: define the best axis to cut using the squared error Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 12/32] avfilter/palettegen: use box->major_axis without intermediate variable Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 13/32] avfilter/palettegen: always compute the box variance Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 14/32] avfilter/palettegen: rename variance to cut_score Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 15/32] avfilter/palettegen: change cut score from ∑e² to max e² Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 16/32] avfilter/palettegen: compute average color within compute_box_stats() Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 17/32] avfilter/palettegen: misc cosmetics Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:18 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 18/32] avfilter/palettegen: rename local variable box_weight to weight Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:18 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 19/32] avfilter/palettegen: switch to signed arithmetic Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:18 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 20/32] avfilter/palettegen: base box split decision on a perceptual model Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:18 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 21/32] avfilter/palettegen: add a warning about supporting only sRGB Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:18 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 22/32] avfilter/palettegen: make refs order deterministic Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:18 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 23/32] avfilter/palettegen: use libc qsort Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:18 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 24/32] avfilter/palette{gen, use}: update Copyright after recent changes Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:18 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 25/32] avfilter/palette: add lowbias32 hashing Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:18 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 26/32] avfilter/palettegen: use lowbias32 for color hashing Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:18 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 27/32] avfilter/paletteuse: " Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:18 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 28/32] avfilter/paletteuse: switch to recursive method Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:18 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 29/32] avfilter/paletteuse: remove alternative search methods Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:18 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 30/32] avfilter/paletteuse: remove mean error tool Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:18 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 31/32] avfilter/paletteuse: move r, g, b computation in a more local scope Clément Bœsch
2022-12-27 23:18 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 32/32] avfilter/palette{gen, use}: misc for-loop cosmetics Clément Bœsch
2023-01-03 16:28 ` [FFmpeg-devel] New iteration for the color quantization in palette{gen, use} Clément Bœsch
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