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From: Lynne <dev@lynne.ee>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] web: Add spi.txt
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2024 22:29:59 +0100 (CET)
Message-ID: <Ns5DJ1i--3-9@lynne.ee> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240303210820.GQ6420@pb2>

Mar 3, 2024, 22:08 by michael@niedermayer.cc:

> On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 05:36:41PM +0100, Stefano Sabatini wrote:
>
>> On date Tuesday 2024-02-27 20:01:26 +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>> > This explains how to request refunds and what can be funded by SPI
>> > 
>> > Co-Author: Stefano Sabatini <stefasab@gmail.com>
>> > ---
>> >  Makefile           |  2 +-
>> >  src/spi            | 98 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >  src/spi_js         |  0
>> >  src/spi_title      |  1 +
>> >  src/template_head2 |  1 +
>> >  5 files changed, 101 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>> >  create mode 100644 src/spi
>> >  create mode 100644 src/spi_js
>> >  create mode 100644 src/spi_title
>> > 
>> > diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile
>> > index 0686e44..dd681e4 100644
>> > --- a/Makefile
>> > +++ b/Makefile
>> > @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
>> >  # ffmpeg.org HTML generation from source files
>> > 
>> >  SRCS = about bugreports consulting contact donations documentation download \
>> > -       olddownload index legal shame security archive
>> > +       olddownload index legal shame security spi archive
>> > 
>> >  HTML_TARGETS  = $(addsuffix .html,$(addprefix htdocs/,$(SRCS)))
>> > 
>> > diff --git a/src/spi b/src/spi
>> > new file mode 100644
>> > index 0000000..8fffc7f
>> > --- /dev/null
>> > +++ b/src/spi
>> > @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@
>> > +<p>
>> > +SPI (Software in the Public Interest) is a non-profit corporation
>> > +registered in the state of New York founded to act as a fiscal sponsor
>> > +for organizations that develop open source software and hardware. For
>> > +details check here:
>> > +<a href="https://www.spi-inc.org/">www.spi-inc.org</a>
>> > +</p>
>> > +
>> > +<p>
>> > +FFmpeg is an SPI associated project and donations can be collected and
>> > +handled by SPI on behalf of FFmpeg. For details about the association
>> > +check here:
>> > +<a href="https://www.spi-inc.org/projects/ffmpeg/">www.spi-inc.org/projects/ffmpeg/</a>
>> > +</p>
>> > +
>> > +<br>
>> > +
>> > +<h4>How to request refunds from SPI:</h4>
>> > +<p>
>> > +Send a mail to ffmpeg-devel with the [REFUND-REQUEST] tag and a short
>> > +description of the refund topic in the subject.
>> > +</p>
>> > +
>> > +<p>
>> > +In the mail, you also need to provide the amount to be refunded, with
>> > +a short description of how the money was spent.
>> > +</p>
>> > +
>> > +<p>
>> > +There is no need and is not recommeded to send receipts when sending
>> > +the refund request on the ffmpeg-devel mailing-list, but they are
>> > +usually needed later when the request is approved and the refund
>> > +request is sent to SPI:
>> > +<a href="https://www.spi-inc.org/treasurer/reimbursement-form/">www.spi-inc.org/treasurer/reimbursement-form</a>
>> > +</p>
>> > +
>> > +<br>
>> > +<h4>What can be payed by SPI:</h4>
>> > +<p>
>>
>> > +FFmpeg money collected at SPI can be used for any purpose which is in line with
>> > +501(c)3 nonprofit rules, and within our mission (Free & OSS software).
>>
>> Free & Open Source software?
>>
>> > +</p>
>> > +
>> > +<p>
>> > +In practice we frequently payed for travel and hardware.
>> > +For other refund expenses or sponsorships, it is recommended to
>>
>> > +discuss them beforehand on ffmpeg-devel. If there is a community
>> > +agreement on their approval, the current FFmpeg liaison will followup
>> > +to get an approval on the SPI side.
>> > +</p>
>> > +
>> > +
>> > +<br>
>> > +<h4>Funding active development by SPI:</h4>
>> > +<p>
>> > +The texts below have been taken from multiple replies FFmpeg has
>> > +received from SPI, they have been edited
>> > +so that "I" was replaced by "SPI" in some cases.)
>> > +</p>
>> > +<p>
>> > +Paying for development *does* require substantial
>> > +additional paperwork, but it is not prohibited.
>> > +</p>
>> > +<p>
>> > +Several SPI projects pay contractors for development
>> > +efforts.  SPI needs a contract in place which describes the work to be
>> > +done.  There are also various things SPI needs to check about the potential
>> > +contractors(e.g. are they a US person or not, as with GSoC mentor payments;
>>
>> contractors_(
>>
>> > +are they really a contractor and not a employee).
>> > +</p>
>> > +<p>
>> > +SPI can't deal with employment at the moment because that involves a
>> > +lot of work, like health insurance, tax withholding, etc.  Contractors
>> > +are easier because they have to take care of that themselves; Whether
>> > +someone is a contractor vs employee depends on various factors (that
>> > +of course are different in every country) and can be disputed (see
>> > +e.g. the debate about whether Uber drivers are employees); SPI has a
>> > +questionnaire about their circumstances.
>> > +</p>
>> > +<p>
>> > +Unfortunately, there's no one-size-fits all when dealing with
>>
>> one-size-fits-all ?
>>
>> > +contractors, especially without knowing the contributor's country.
>> > +</p>
>>
>> > +<p>
>> > +SPI does have some contract templates which depends on the contractors
>> > +country. In case of US, Australia, France and a couple others
>> > +countries, SPI can easily provide them, otherwise SPI would need to
>> > +ask their attorney to draft one, which would take some time
>>
>> add missing "."
>>
>> > +</p>
>> > +<p>
>> > +Also, SPI has two models, MSA (which transfers ownership) and CSA (which
>> > +grants a license instead). SPI usually sends the MSA (it's better for most
>> > +purposes), but for development purposes, some projects prefer that the
>> > +contractor retains ownership rights.
>>
>> Probably it's good to expand MSA (Master Service Agreements) and CSA
>> (Continued Service Agreements) in their first occurrence.
>>
>> > +</p>
>> > +
>> > +<br><br>
>> > +
>> > diff --git a/src/spi_js b/src/spi_js
>> > new file mode 100644
>> > index 0000000..e69de29
>> > diff --git a/src/spi_title b/src/spi_title
>> > new file mode 100644
>> > index 0000000..389532a
>> > --- /dev/null
>> > +++ b/src/spi_title
>> > @@ -0,0 +1 @@
>> > +SPI
>> > diff --git a/src/template_head2 b/src/template_head2
>> > index 7ba634b..79d2f51 100644
>> > --- a/src/template_head2
>> > +++ b/src/template_head2
>> > @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@
>> >                <li><a href="developer.html#Contributing">Contribute</a></li>
>> >                <li><a href="http://fate.ffmpeg.org">FATE</a></li>
>> >                <li><a href="http://coverage.ffmpeg.org">Code Coverage</a></li>
>> > +              <li><a href="spi.html">Funding through SPI</a></li>
>>
>> Still looks good to me with the minor adjustments, thanks.
>>
>
> will apply
>

I think stuff like this should go to the website, not the git repo.
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-03 21:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-27 19:01 Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-03 16:36 ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-03-03 21:08   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-03 21:29     ` Lynne [this message]
2024-03-03 21:34       ` Michael Niedermayer

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