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From: Lynne <dev@lynne.ee>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 00/13] YUVJ removal
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 15:11:08 +0200 (CEST)
Message-ID: <NgiIxu7--B-9@lynne.ee> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABLWnS8Uvx5pnOusOZAhuNNMjbqq2X2LTx8EMdHA003K+HFn8w@mail.gmail.com>

Oct 14, 2023, 00:22 by vittorio.giovara@gmail.com:

> On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 5:14 PM Lynne <dev@lynne.ee> wrote:
>
>> Oct 13, 2023, 20:33 by vittorio.giovara@gmail.com:
>>
>> > On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 10:27 AM Niklas Haas <ffmpeg@haasn.xyz> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Changes since v1:
>> >>
>> >> - Remove unneeded patch (AVCodecContext.colorspace init)
>> >> - Merge auto-range conversion into auto-scale filter
>> >> - Replace vf_zscale by vf_colorspace in fftools
>> >>
>> >
>> > Why is this? I haven't checked what vf_colorspace supports in a hot
>> second,
>> > but iirc zscale can handle non linear spaces better and hdr conversion
>> > If it's because it's a built in filter, do you think we could first check
>> > for zscale presence and fallback to colorspace?
>> >
>>
>> vf_colorspace != swscale
>>
>
> I am aware, thanks, not sure why's related here
>
>
>> Relying on external library for basic functionality that we have
>> no control over, which may break its ABI or API at any moment,
>> when we have a built-in one is a no.
>> I wouldn't agree to having it optional in this case either. Users
>> can explicitly request it as a filter and use it, which fits in better
>> with its very explicit programming model too.
>>
>
> except colorspace doesn't implement necessary features and conversions that
> are present in zscale afair
> if it's an automation to facilitate the life of a user it shouldn't come at
> the cost of producing actual good results
>

colorspace doesn't make it impossible to introduce all that is needed.
It's a cleaner codebase that we can extend.
As for HDR, I think anything but what libplacebo does is sufficient.
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-14 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-13 14:24 Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 01/13] avfilter/vf_scale: don't change range by default Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 02/13] avcodec: add extended AVCodec color metadata Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 17:10   ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2023-10-13 18:52     ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-14 10:29     ` Niklas Haas
2023-10-14 11:46     ` Niklas Haas
2023-10-20 13:54       ` Anton Khirnov
2023-10-20 14:11         ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-10-20 14:01     ` Anton Khirnov
2023-10-14 13:31   ` Leo Izen
2023-10-14 13:40     ` Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 03/13] fftools/ffmpeg_filter: auto-convert range if needed Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 04/13] lavfi/vf_colorspace: support prim/trc/csp passthrough Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 05/13] fftools/ffmpeg_filter: auto-insert colorspace filter Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 06/13] avcodec/encode: enforce AVCodec capabilities at encode time Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 07/13] tests/fate: force MPEG range for rawvideo tests Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 08/13] tests/fate: allow conversion filters in jpg-icc test Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 09/13] lavc: set color_ranges for YUVJ-only codecs Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 10/13] lavfi/lavu/lavc: remove YUVJ pixel formats Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 11/13] swscale/utils: simplify JPEG handling function Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 12/13] tests/fate: remove unused YUVJ ref files Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 13/13] avutil/pixdesc: remove old yuvj pixel format check Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 18:33 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 00/13] YUVJ removal Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-13 21:14   ` Lynne
2023-10-13 22:21     ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-14 13:11       ` Lynne [this message]
2023-10-14 15:15         ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-14 15:18           ` Lynne
2023-10-20 12:14           ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-10-20 16:14             ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-20 23:13               ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-10-21 23:20                 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-10-24  0:56                   ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-25 22:15                     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-10-20 11:30   ` Niklas Haas
2023-10-20 16:17     ` Vittorio Giovara

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