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From: Lynne <dev@lynne.ee>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v6 0/1] avformat: add Software Defined Radio support
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2023 22:29:45 +0200 (CEST)
Message-ID: <NZNI-yt--3-9@lynne.ee> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZKHVbax/GO4RZ/Wd@phare.normalesup.org>

Jul 2, 2023, 21:52 by george@nsup.org:

> Lynne (12023-07-02):
>
>> git master is not a playground, but it is certainly a place for developers
>> to experiment with ideas they're *seriously* exploring.
>>
>> Sonic and Snow were experiments. They didn't work out, but nevertheless,
>> they made their mark on the status quo of compression research at the time.
>>
>> FFV1 was an experiment. It worked out, being an IETF standard.
>> The native mpeg encoders were experiments. They worked out, and their
>> rate control system largely inspired x264's rate control systems.
>> The DNN filtering stuff was an experiment. It didn't work out.The native Opus encoder was an experiment, and it holds up well against
>> libopus, if a bit slow and misguided.
>> The AAC encoder was always an experiment. Did it work out? Let's
>> find out after the third rewrite :)
>>
>
> Thanks for the history. This is what I called a playground for hackers;
> a rose by any other name.
>
>> As for libavsdr? Time will tell. But it's certainly got a niche to fill,
>> as currently, you have to setup large and complex gnuradio filterchains.
>> But, I would prefer for it to be in a separate repository.
>>
>
> I have a hard time understanding this preference, for both avradio and
> avstream.
>
> Moving to a separate repository requires you to maintain a separate
> build system, separate tests, etc. It also means only enthusiast users
> will download and install the library, thus greatly reducing both its
> usefulness and its changes of getting off the ground.
>

Not really, if ffmpeg has a new dependency, distributions are generally
eager to use it if it's well packaged and doesn't depend itself on hundreds
of other libraries.
Moreso if it's an official library.
A simple makefile is a few dozen lines, it doesn't have to be automatically
generated. And test-wise, FATE wouldn't really be able to cover it.
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-02 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-28 21:25 Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-28 21:25 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v6] " Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-29 15:43 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v6 0/1] " Paul B Mahol
2023-06-30 14:08   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-30 14:38     ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-06-30 17:40       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-30 17:57         ` Paul B Mahol
2023-06-30 18:02         ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-07-01 15:28           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-07-01 18:56             ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-07-01 19:30               ` Paul B Mahol
2023-07-02  9:40           ` Nicolas George
2023-07-02 10:08             ` Paul B Mahol
2023-07-02 13:47               ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-07-02 16:01                 ` Nicolas George
2023-07-02 18:21                   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-07-02 11:00       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-07-02 16:11         ` Nicolas George
2023-07-02 18:55         ` Lynne
2023-07-02 21:14           ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-07-02 22:03             ` Lynne
2023-07-02 22:46               ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-07-10  6:57                 ` Lynne
2023-07-11 21:09                   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-30 17:00     ` Kieran Kunhya
2023-07-01 15:20       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-06-30 21:36     ` Martin Storsjö
2023-07-01 14:44       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-07-01 19:41         ` Martin Storsjö
2023-07-01 19:56           ` Tomas Härdin
2023-07-01 20:06           ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-07-01 20:42             ` Kieran Kunhya
2023-07-01 21:25               ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-07-01 21:32                 ` Kieran Kunhya
2023-07-01 19:08       ` Anton Khirnov
2023-07-01 19:35       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-07-02  9:58       ` Nicolas George
2023-07-02 10:10         ` Paul B Mahol
2023-07-02 10:43         ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-07-02 16:07           ` Nicolas George
2023-07-02 18:13             ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-07-02 18:20               ` Nicolas George
2023-07-02 18:32                 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-07-02 18:52             ` Lynne
2023-07-02 19:52               ` Nicolas George
2023-07-02 20:29                 ` Lynne [this message]
2023-06-30 22:02     ` Tomas Härdin
2023-07-02  9:28       ` Nicolas George

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