From: Lynne <dev@lynne.ee>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] [PATCH 0/7] RISC-V V vector length dealings
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 23:32:42 +0200 (CEST)
Message-ID: <ND-rRdI--3-2@lynne.ee> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2846208.e9J7NaK4W3@basile.remlab.net>
Sep 27, 2022, 22:04 by remi@remlab.net:
> Hello,
>
> As a general rule, scalable vector instruction sets should be used with the
> largest possible vector length. There are however a number of operations that
> just happen with a fixed size, and this patchset exhibits the simplest one I
> could find. The proper RISC-V Vector extension guarantees a minimum vector
> length of 128 bits. In theory though the underlying specification also allows
> for (embedded designs with) only 32 or 64 bits per vector.
>
> The RFC is how should this be dealt with? The simplest possibibility is to
> simply assume 128 bits. Indeed, I am not aware of any actual or proposed
> processor IP with shorter-than-128-bit vectors, even less so, one upon which
> FFmpeg would be used. For what it is worth, ARM SVE guarantees a minimum of
> 128 bits per vector too. In that case, we can drop the first patch, and
> simplify the following ones.
>
> Another option is to expose the vector length via the CPU flags as proposed
> earlier by Lynne. Though this is unorthodox the vector length is not a proper
> flag. The vector length can readily be retrieved from a read-only unprivileged
> CSR, and this patchset instead introduces a simple inline wrapper therefore.
> The downside of this approach is that this is nominally undefined behaviour,
> and typically will raise a SIGILL, if the processor does not support the
> vector extension.
>
Where's the undefined behavior? If it's guarded by an if, the
function will return the maximum length. I don't mind that it's not
a cpuflag.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-27 21:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-27 20:04 Rémi Denis-Courmont
2022-09-27 20:04 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/7] lavu/riscv: helper to read the vector length remi
2022-09-27 20:04 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/7] lavc/idctdsp: RISC-V V put_pixels_clamped function remi
2022-09-28 8:06 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2022-09-28 9:48 ` Lynne
2022-09-27 20:04 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 3/7] lavc/idctdsp: RISC-V V add_pixels_clamped function remi
2022-09-27 20:04 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 4/7] lavc/idctdsp: RISC-V V put_signed_pixels_clamped function remi
2022-09-27 20:04 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 5/7] lavc/pixblockdsp: RISC-V V 8-bit get_pixels & get_pixels_unaligned remi
2022-09-27 20:04 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 6/7] lavc/pixblockdsp: RISC-V V 16-bit " remi
2022-09-27 20:04 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 7/7] lavc/pixblockdsp: RISC-V diff_pixels & diff_pixels_unaligned remi
2022-09-27 21:32 ` Lynne [this message]
2022-09-28 6:03 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] [PATCH 0/7] RISC-V V vector length dealings Rémi Denis-Courmont
2022-09-28 6:51 ` Lynne
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