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From: "Rémi Denis-Courmont" <remi@remlab.net>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] gcc: Remove auto-vectorization limitation.
Date: Sat, 24 May 2025 15:00:14 +0300
Message-ID: <FCA22E37-2830-479F-BDF2-83392E419E5D@remlab.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250521061750.54882-1-jiawei@iscas.ac.cn>

Hi,

Le 21 mai 2025 09:17:50 GMT+03:00, Jiawei <jiawei@iscas.ac.cn> a écrit :
>This patch modifies the FFmpeg build system to remove the explicit disabling
>of GCC's auto-vectorization feature.
>
>Modern GCC versions (>= 10.0) have demonstrated stable auto-vectorization
>capabilities through extensive optimizations in loop analysis and SIMD
>code generation. The explicit -fno-tree-vectorize flag originally added
>in commit 973859f (2009) to workaround early GCC vectorization instability
>is no longer necessary.
>
>Key improvements justifying this change:
>1. Enhanced heuristics for loop vectorization cost models
>2. Mature handling of alignment and memory access patterns
>3. Robust fallback mechanisms for unsupported architectures
>
>This change allows FFmpeg to benefit from automated SIMD optimizations
>when built with -O3 optimization level, particularly improving
>performance on x86_64 (AVX), ARM64 (SVE) and RISC-V(RVV) architectures.

I don't mind the patch but this description is very misleading. Realistically, this will only enable SSE2 or so on x86-64 and nothing on RISC-V, because we can't simply assume that AVX and RVV are supported.

Call me when Debian, Ubuntu and Fedora require RVA23 for their official RISC-V ports... (I won't be holding my breath.)

Bluntly, I am concerned that this gives the wrong impression that AVX and RVV optimisations are no longer necessary, cut funding off. Yet GCC (and LLVM) remain incapable of selecting optimised loops depending on runtime CPU capabilities.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-05-24 12:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-21  6:17 Jiawei
2025-05-21  6:52 ` Nicolas George
2025-05-21 10:17   ` Jiawei
2025-05-21 18:21     ` Frank Plowman
2025-05-22  6:32       ` Jiawei
2025-05-24  1:46         ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2025-05-24  4:10           ` Jiawei
2025-05-24 16:10         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2025-05-25 21:37           ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-05-26  8:43             ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2025-05-30  0:46               ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-05-30  6:58                 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2025-05-31 13:39                   ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-06-03 16:14                   ` Niklas Haas
2025-06-04 11:13                     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2025-05-21  7:46 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-05-21 10:32   ` Jiawei
2025-05-21 11:09     ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-05-21  9:04 ` Zhao Zhili
2025-05-21 10:26   ` Jiawei
2025-05-21 10:33 ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2025-05-21 12:09   ` Martin Storsjö
2025-05-21 12:14     ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2025-05-21 12:22       ` Martin Storsjö
2025-05-21 18:12         ` softworkz .
2025-05-24 12:00 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont [this message]
2025-05-21 10:08 Jiawei
2025-05-21 10:14 Jiawei

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