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00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: ad6ac2d1-0809-4a04-950e-08dd3a7d092f X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-rms-persistedconsumerorg: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 22 Jan 2025 00:38:05.5620 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: MN0P223MB1230 Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Regarding Git Tooling X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: > -----Original Message----- > From: ffmpeg-devel On Behalf Of > Soft Works > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 5:14 PM > To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches devel@ffmpeg.org> > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Regarding Git Tooling > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ffmpeg-devel On Behalf Of > > Michael Niedermayer > > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 4:54 PM > > To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches > devel@ffmpeg.org> > > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Regarding Git Tooling > > > > Hi > > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 01:04:45PM +0100, Niklas Haas wrote: > > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 14:39:29 -0600 Marth64 > > wrote: > > > > Hello, in the context of a GA member, > > > > > > > > I think there is general interest in modernizing technical > > tooling > > > > specifically regarding ML/patch workflow vs. integrated git > > solution. > > > > Both have their merits. I think what we have today is optimized > > for > > > > some but cumbersome for many. Like shopping for a drill, it is > > good to > > > > step back from time to time and ensure we have the right tools. > > > > > > > > I think the problem statement of productivity being impacted > from > > > > outgrowing the current tooling is different from who is hosting > > it. > > > > > > > > These are some options I noticed interest in (in no particular > > order): > > > > - Forgejo > > > > - GitLab > > > > - Mailing List/Patch Workflow (current solution) > > > > > > Since our last discussion at VDD, I have come to prefer Forgejo > > over GitLab > > > and would be in favor of hosting an instance on ffmpeg.org. > > > > > > > > What are the current barriers to doing this. Michael, since you > > said that you > > > are in favor iff the community agrees with it, should we start a > GA > > vote on > > > the matter? > > > > I would instead of a secret GA vote, maybe wait a few days for > > discussion > > to settle down and then just ask people on the ML about (yes vs no) > > (strong vs weak) > > and a short paragraph about a switch to Forgejo > > Isn't this intrinsically biased in the first place? > Asking on the mailing list about who wants to move away from it? > > And then telling those who do not like or regularly use the mailing > list: "Of sorry, you missed the opportunity of voicing your opinion > on moving away from the ML because you didn't read the ML!" > > During the time when I didn't follow the ML, I still received and got > attention of the voting e-mails. I don't think that an informal call > on the ML is suitable for getting a representative picture, but an e- > mail with a call for voting will reach out to everybody with an equal > chance of getting attention. Just read December and feel like an idiot. I had no idea what has happened. My interest is better tooling, but now I come to wonder whether this is really just about tooling or possibly other motivations in play. It might make sense to wait until things have settled a bit and people can talk normally to each other again? Not that the transition will end up as a fork.. sw _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".