Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 1/5] avutil/hwcontext_d3d11va: fix the uninitialized texture bindflag

[Soft Works <softworkz@hotmail.com>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org> On Behalf Of Wu,
> Tong1
> Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2022 11:50 AM
> To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-
> devel@ffmpeg.org>
> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 1/5] avutil/hwcontext_d3d11va:
> fix the uninitialized texture bindflag
> 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org> On Behalf Of
> > > Hendrik Leppkes
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2022 5:54 PM
> > > To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-
> > > devel@ffmpeg.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 1/5]
> avutil/hwcontext_d3d11va:
> > > fix the uninitialized texture bindflag
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 5:48 PM Hendrik Leppkes
> <h.leppkes@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 7:09 AM Soft Works
> <softworkz@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > I think that's what Hendrik wanted to point out as far as I
> > > understood.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Basically, I want explicit behavior, not implicit defaults.
> Anytime
> > > a
> > > > hwcontext is created, something should tell it what its going to
> be
> > > > used for, so we can determine which flags make sense (or
> ideally, it
> > > > should just specify the flags).
> > > >
> > > > This patch creates an implicit default for one use-case, is this
> > > going
> > > > to work with all others? No, of course not, because it has to
> know
> > > > what flags to set. Thats why explicitly setting those flags is
> > > > important, instead of just fixing one implicit case.
> >
> > I said I agree with you - basically, just that we need to
> differentiate between
> > the use case:
> >
> > 1. Use via API
> >    => No defaults should be applied, caller is responsible for
> specifying
> >       the flags
> >
> > 2. Use via ffmpeg cli
> >    => Applying the render target flag would be safe here.
> >       We could require this to set via parameter, but there won't
> ever
> >       be a case to specify something different than the render
> target flag
> >
> > Why? Let's look at the possible flags:
> >
> > D3D11_BIND_DECODER
> > In all decoding cases, this flag is set explicitly, so it overrides
> any default we
> > would set
> >
> > D3D11_BIND_VIDEO_ENCODER
> > Set explicitly when required, so it overrides any default we would
> set
> >
> > D3D11_BIND_RENDER_TARGET
> > All other cases require this flag (e.g. video processing)
> >
> > No Flag
> > Dead end, texture would be unusable for any kind of video processing
> >
> >
> > > On that note, the example commandline it fixes just does hwupload
> and
> > > nothing else - does that even require render target to be flagged?
> > > From what I can tell it uses a simple
> > > ID3D11DeviceContext::CopySubresourceRegion to copy from the
> staging
> > > texture, which should not require any particular bind flags. Bind
> > > Flags in turn would then depend on what you are actually trying to
> do
> > > with the texture (shader input, etc), in this example... nothing?
> >
> > We are still in the context of ffmpeg cli - you know that there are
> no shaders
> > or 3d operations and no etc.
> >
> > But at this point, you can derive to another context or you can
> hwmap.
> > For all of those things, you need D3D11_BIND_RENDER_TARGET.
> >
> >
> > Summary
> >
> > As mentioned I see two possibilities:
> >
> > 1. Use D3D11_BIND_RENDER_TARGET as a default when used in context of
> >    ffmpeg cli, otherwise no default flags
> >
> > 2. Require a device initialization parameter in the command line
> >    (but it would always be about setting the render target flag
> >    and there's no case where you would NOT want to set it)
> >
> 
> Thanks for the possible solutions for this issue. The No.1 seems more
> reasonable because
> No.2 just seems more unnecessary. But I will still need to find a
> better place to set the flag.

I would favor #1 as well. 

Regarding "better place to set the flag":

The BindFlag needs to be set when initializing a FRAMES context.
But at this point, there's no way to determine whether the code is running
in an ffmpeg cli process or used by an API consumer.

But there would be an opportunity to convey this information on 
device init. The device (D3D11VA) could then set an internal flag
from device init and use this on frames init to determine which default
to use for the BindFlags value.

Remains the question how ffmpeg cli can convey this information to 
the device (for use during device init).

What I thought would be to have ffmpeg.c (or rather ffmpeg_hw.c)
to ALWAYS (for all hwaccels) add an entry to the options dictionary,
something like "cli" or similar.
This would avoid introducing a "special-case" mechanism just for 
this case (=> by making it a common behavior).

There are other cases where this might be useful in order to
discriminate API usage from cli usage.

But let's see what the others think first..


Kind regards,
softworkz
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