From: Soft Works <softworkz@hotmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Politics
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2021 18:49:15 +0000
Message-ID: <DM8P223MB036554F488D7982017A919A0BA799@DM8P223MB0365.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> (raw)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org> On Behalf Of Hendrik
> Leppkes
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2021 7:31 PM
> To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Politics
>
> On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 7:16 PM Daniel Cantarín <canta@canta.com.ar> wrote:
> >
> > > This is a very lax attitude towards a serious problem that
> > > everyone in the fansubbing community deals with. A frame
> > > of offset is unacceptable for such use-cases, and they have
> > > to deal with formats which made concessions to timebases
> > > due to historical blunders.
> >
> > Please link to some such fansub community, where they're
> > discussing some serious frame-perfect sync issue. A single
> > comment in some forum would be fine. I would like to
> > understand those interests better, as all fansub communities
> > that I know of deal with audio timings, not video frames.
> >
> > I've mentioned this before; "people talk a lot about syncing
> > subs with video frames, but rarely against actual dialogue
> > audio", here:
> > http://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2021-December/289290.html
> >
> > I've never seen anyone checking sub sync against video
> > frames: they always check it agains the dialogue in my
> > experience.
>
> Then you have never seen anime translations where signage in the
> videos are translated. If the subtitles are off even by one frame in
> such a case, you will see it, especially when the translated sign is
> moving with the video, and one new subtitle event is generated for
> every video frame.
> You can't sync to audio when the element you are translating is in the
> video itself, and not audio.
I'm all-in regarding accuracy. That's out of question.
But please @Hendrilk & @Lynne: Provide an example demonstrating that
an problem that could be solved by increasing the scale of the
subtitle timing values.
Let's look at real problems, not hypothetical ones.
Thanks,
softworkz
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2021-12-15 13:34 ` Soft Works
2021-12-18 10:26 ` Paul B Mahol
2021-12-18 11:34 ` Soft Works
2021-12-18 13:32 ` Lynne
2021-12-18 14:28 ` Soft Works
2021-12-18 15:16 ` Lynne
2021-12-18 15:43 ` Soft Works
2021-12-18 17:53 ` Lynne
2021-12-18 18:16 ` Daniel Cantarín
2021-12-18 18:30 ` Hendrik Leppkes
2021-12-18 18:49 ` Soft Works [this message]
2021-12-18 20:05 ` Daniel Cantarín
2021-12-18 20:41 ` Soft Works
2021-12-19 15:16 ` Michael Niedermayer
2021-12-19 18:23 ` Soft Works
2021-12-19 18:31 ` Soft Works
2021-12-20 14:49 ` Michael Niedermayer
2021-12-20 22:35 ` Soft Works
2021-12-20 23:20 ` Soft Works
2021-12-21 18:38 ` Michael Niedermayer
2021-12-22 10:23 ` Soft Works
2021-12-18 17:59 ` Daniel Cantarín
2021-12-18 15:41 ` Daniel Cantarín
2021-12-20 13:48 Daniel Cantarín
2021-12-20 14:06 Daniel Cantarín
2021-12-20 15:23 ` Michael Niedermayer
2021-12-22 13:29 ` Soft Works
2021-12-22 19:54 ` Michael Niedermayer
2021-12-22 20:17 ` Soft Works
2021-12-20 16:27 Daniel Cantarín
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