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text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: > -----Original Message----- > From: ffmpeg-devel On Behalf Of > Marth64 > Sent: Samstag, 8. M=E4rz 2025 01:22 > To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] The Concept for the CC Installment is broken > by Design > = > > I don't have any reason to think or say anything bad about you or > other members of the CC. > = > Then I apologize if I misunderstood. I have no issue hearing criticism > of our structures but the comparison to kindergartners came off the > wrong way. > _______________________________________________ Hi Marth64, thanks and nevermind. I truly don't want to accuse anybody of anything and = at the very least the members of the CC. I know about your intentions to im= prove the community and totally appreciate that. I also have no doubts that you have done some good things which haven't bec= ome public. It's important to have community members like you who are tryin= g to keep people together. = My criticism is solely on the structure of the CC operations, which is base= d on many observations I had made during the past months. You - and the mem= bers of the CC - are taking your perceived integrity at stakes, solely for = taking that role, not even due to any action that was taken. And when you t= ake any (public) actions, some will always think it was wrong or will be di= ssatisfied. It's really a tough position to fulfil. My overall impression is that the sole existence of the CC in the current f= orm is more dividing than unifying, no matter what the CC does - and even w= hen it would to nothing at all, the distrust that has emerged wasn't based = on anything the CC has done, just about what it might be doing. Similar, th= e disregarding or CC members like being from this or that "group" or "party= ", like it had been alluded from various sides recently. I wanted to illustrate the mechanism of and effects of the CC concept and h= ow it can hardly fulfill the intended purposes in a beneficial way (in tota= l sum) - no matter how good and faithful and passionate the people are who = are taking those roles. Or let me put it this way: The CC structure is too = much overshadowing the good things you are really intending to do. The elementary school comparison is intended to illustrate which kind of sy= stem we have: making complaints privately and expecting the target being sa= nctioned publicly - that's not a healthy pattern. = Btw. if you would really want to take it literally, you would be a teacher,= not a child, but again, it was really not meant to call anybody a child or= anything else, it was meant to make people think about the current system = and how much sense it makes for this community. Best wishes sw = _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".