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From: Soft Works <softworkz@hotmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Cc: "Clément Bœsch" <u@pkh.me>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Revert "avfilter/vf_palette(gen|use): support palettes with alpha"
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 21:19:05 +0000
Message-ID: <DM8P223MB03650704A89E805639CE78F1BA349@DM8P223MB0365.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221030175813.1497020-1-u@pkh.me>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org> On Behalf Of
> Clément Bœsch
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 6:58 PM
> To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
> Cc: softworkz@hotmail.com; Clément Bœsch <u@pkh.me>
> Subject: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Revert "avfilter/vf_palette(gen|use):
> support palettes with alpha"
> 
> This reverts commit dea673d0d548c864ec85f9260d8900d944ef7a2a.
> 
> This change cannot work for several reasons, the most obvious ones
> are:
> 
> - the alpha is being part of the scoring of the color difference,
> even
>   though we can not interpret the alpha as part of the perception of
> the
>   color (we don't even know if it's premultiplied or postmultiplied)
> - the colors are averaged with their alpha value which simply cannot
>   work
> 
> The command proposed in the original thread of the patch actually
> produces a completely broken file:
> 
>     ffmpeg -y -loglevel verbose -i fate-suite/apng/o_sample.png -
> filter_complex
> "split[split1][split2];[split1]palettegen=max_colors=254:use_alpha=1[
> pal1];[split2][pal1]paletteuse=use_alpha=1" -frames:v 1 out.png
> 
> We can see that many color pixels are off, but more importantly some
> colors have a random alpha value: https://imgur.com/eFQ2UK7
> 
> I don't see any easy fix for this unfortunately, the approach appears
> to
> be flawed by design.
> ---

At the time of submission I did a lot of experiments and the results
seemed to be very useful:

https://gist.github.com/softworkz/deef5c2a43d3d629c3e17f9e21544a8f

softworkz
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-30 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-30 17:58 Clément Bœsch
2022-10-30 21:19 ` Soft Works [this message]
2022-10-30 21:30   ` Clément Bœsch
2022-10-30 21:37     ` Clément Bœsch
2022-10-30 21:41     ` Soft Works
2022-10-30 22:55       ` Soft Works
2022-10-31  0:29         ` Clément Bœsch
2022-10-31  1:43           ` Soft Works
2022-10-31 10:57             ` Clément Bœsch
2022-10-31 11:58               ` Paul B Mahol
2022-10-31 12:41                 ` Clément Bœsch
2022-10-31 15:11               ` Soft Works
2022-10-31 18:51                 ` Clément Bœsch
2022-10-31 20:41                   ` Soft Works
2022-10-31 21:58               ` Michael Niedermayer
2022-10-31 23:34                 ` Soft Works
2022-11-01 10:18                 ` Clément Bœsch
2022-10-31  2:09           ` Soft Works

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