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From: Soft Works <softworkz-at-hotmail.com@ffmpeg.org>
To: Stefano Sabatini <stefasab@gmail.com>,
	FFmpeg development discussions and patches
	<ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Cc: Soft Works <softworkz-at-hotmail.com@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v3 1/7] fftools/textformat: Extract and generalize textformat api from ffprobe.c
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 15:30:28 +0000
Message-ID: <CH0P223MB03634C4EE7E50FECA16A57F0BAD42@CH0P223MB0363.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z8xV8g1pb2RPTKw1@mariano>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefano Sabatini <stefasab@gmail.com>
> Sent: Samstag, 8. März 2025 15:37
> To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
> Cc: Soft Works <softworkz-at-hotmail.com@ffmpeg.org>; softworkz
> <softworkz@hotmail.com>; Andreas Rheinhardt
> <andreas.rheinhardt@outlook.com>
> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v3 1/7] fftools/textformat: Extract
> and generalize textformat api from ffprobe.c
> 
> On date Saturday 2025-03-01 10:01:58 +0000, softworkz wrote:
> [...]
> 
> > +int avtext_context_open(AVTextFormatContext **ptctx, const
> AVTextFormatter *formatter, AVTextWriterContext *writer, const char
> *args,
> > +                        const struct AVTextFormatSection *sections,
> int nb_sections,
> > +                        int show_value_unit,
> > +                        int use_value_prefix,
> > +                        int use_byte_value_binary_prefix,
> > +                        int use_value_sexagesimal_format,
> > +                        int show_optional_fields,
> > +                        char *show_data_hash);
> 
> writer -> writer_ctx?
> 
> I'm fine with changing this later to avoid massive rebase edits.

No problem, I realized that it's just a matter of tooling after getting annoyed by these things for years 😊
(done already)


> Also I notice there is some of the usual inconsistencies here:
> av_X_Y against avXY and avX_Y that we have in the rest of the code.
> 
> Maybe let's stick to avX_Y or to av_X_Y.
> 
> Also this might be:
> av_text_format_open(...)
> av_text_format_close(...)
> av_text_format_print_X(...)
> 
> Or to simplify we can just call the structure AVTextContext (I see
> text as an evolution of a string, meant for structured formatted data,
> which is implied by the fact that we need a formatter) and simplify
> related functions naming to:
> av_text_open(...)
> av_text_close(...)
> av_text_print_X(...)
> 
> av_text_formatter_...
> av_text_writer_open...
> av_text_writer_close...
> 
> In fact I don't think there is much gain in keeping "context" in the
> name of the functions.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Again, since this is not public API (yet?) this should not be
> considered a blocker (also I've been out of touch with FFmpeg and I
> might be not aware of API conventions evolution).

From bottom to top:

Regarding public API, I tried to name everything as if it would be public in order to make it easier and less invasive in case that would happen. I also set this as a goal (and originally submitted it, being in avutil) to make it fully independent.
Nicolas meant that it's not ready in the current form to become public and he's probably right about it. 
But in the new form and location it will be easy to work on it as the big refactoring change is out of the way now.


Naming: 

I think the word context is helpful to indicate what it is - like Codec and Codec-Context there's AVTextFormatter and AVTextFormatContext - imo it is good to understand the relation between the too.

For everything else I don't mind. I had changed the namings myself a number of times but each time it ended with another inconsistency - I was just kind of moving the inconsistency around.
So, I'll happily rename everything in whatever way is desired, I'd just say that before renaming we should make a full plan in advance which covers the full range.


Thanks
sw






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  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-08 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-19  9:59 [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 0/3] print_graphs: Complete Filtergraph Printing ffmpegagent
2025-02-19  9:59 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/3] fftools/ffmpeg_filter: Move some declaration to new header file softworkz
2025-02-19  9:59 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/3] fftools/ffmpeg_graphprint: Add options for filtergraph printing softworkz
2025-02-21  9:22   ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2025-02-21  9:42     ` Soft Works
2025-02-21 11:11       ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2025-02-21 11:25         ` Soft Works
2025-02-21 13:09   ` Nicolas George
2025-02-21 13:49     ` Soft Works
2025-02-24 10:41       ` Nicolas George
2025-02-24 13:19         ` Soft Works
2025-02-26 14:42           ` Nicolas George
2025-02-27 13:11             ` Soft Works
2025-02-19  9:59 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 3/3] fftools: Enable filtergraph printing and update docs softworkz
2025-02-21 11:27 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 0/4] print_graphs: Complete Filtergraph Printing ffmpegagent
2025-02-21 11:27   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 1/4] fftools/ffmpeg_filter: Move some declaration to new header file softworkz
2025-02-21 11:27   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 2/4] avfilter/avfilter Add avfilter_link_get_hw_frames_ctx() softworkz
2025-02-21 11:27   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 3/4] fftools/ffmpeg_graphprint: Add options for filtergraph printing softworkz
2025-02-21 11:27   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 4/4] fftools: Enable filtergraph printing and update docs softworkz
2025-03-01 10:01   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v3 0/7] print_graphs: Complete Filtergraph Printing ffmpegagent
2025-03-01 10:01     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v3 1/7] fftools/textformat: Extract and generalize textformat api from ffprobe.c softworkz
2025-03-02 17:54       ` Stefano Sabatini
2025-03-02 19:44         ` Soft Works
2025-03-05 20:20           ` Stefano Sabatini
2025-03-05 20:58             ` Soft Works
2025-03-08 14:00       ` Stefano Sabatini
2025-03-08 15:01         ` Soft Works
2025-03-08 14:36       ` Stefano Sabatini
2025-03-08 15:30         ` Soft Works [this message]
2025-03-08 18:12           ` Stefano Sabatini
2025-03-08 19:25             ` Soft Works
2025-03-09 18:55         ` Soft Works
2025-03-01 10:01     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v3 2/7] fftools/ffprobe: Change to use textformat api softworkz
2025-03-08 14:18       ` Stefano Sabatini
2025-03-01 10:02     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v3 3/7] fftools/ffprobe: Rename writer_print_section_* and WriterContext softworkz
2025-03-08 14:46       ` Stefano Sabatini
2025-03-08 15:46         ` Soft Works
2025-03-08 17:54         ` Soft Works
2025-03-01 10:02     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v3 4/7] fftools/ffmpeg_filter: Move some declaration to new header file softworkz
2025-03-01 10:02     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v3 5/7] avfilter/avfilter Add avfilter_link_get_hw_frames_ctx() softworkz
2025-03-01 10:02     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v3 6/7] fftools/ffmpeg_graphprint: Add options for filtergraph printing softworkz
2025-03-01 10:02     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v3 7/7] fftools: Enable filtergraph printing and update docs softworkz
2025-03-01 22:54     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 0/7] print_graphs: Complete Filtergraph Printing ffmpegagent
2025-03-01 22:54       ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 1/7] fftools/textformat: Extract and generalize textformat api from ffprobe.c softworkz
2025-03-01 22:54       ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 2/7] fftools/ffprobe: Change to use textformat api softworkz
2025-03-01 22:54       ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 3/7] fftools/ffprobe: Rename writer_print_section_* and WriterContext softworkz
2025-03-01 22:54       ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 4/7] fftools/ffmpeg_filter: Move some declaration to new header file softworkz
2025-03-01 22:54       ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 5/7] avfilter/avfilter: Add avfilter_link_get_hw_frames_ctx() softworkz
2025-03-01 22:54       ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 6/7] fftools/ffmpeg_graphprint: Add options for filtergraph printing softworkz
2025-03-01 22:54       ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 7/7] fftools: Enable filtergraph printing and update docs softworkz
2025-03-08 17:55       ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v5 0/8] print_graphs: Complete Filtergraph Printing ffmpegagent
2025-03-08 17:55         ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v5 1/8] fftools/textformat: Extract and generalize textformat api from ffprobe.c softworkz
2025-03-08 19:08           ` Stefano Sabatini
2025-03-08 19:49             ` Soft Works
2025-03-08 17:55         ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v5 2/8] fftools/ffprobe: Change to use textformat api softworkz
2025-03-08 19:23           ` Stefano Sabatini
2025-03-08 17:55         ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v5 3/8] fftools/ffprobe: Rename writer_print_section_* and WriterContext softworkz
2025-03-08 19:24           ` Stefano Sabatini
2025-03-08 17:55         ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v5 4/8] fftools/ffmpeg_filter: Move some declaration to new header file softworkz
2025-03-08 17:55         ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v5 5/8] avfilter/avfilter: Add avfilter_link_get_hw_frames_ctx() softworkz
2025-03-08 17:55         ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v5 6/8] fftools/ffmpeg_graphprint: Add options for filtergraph printing softworkz
2025-03-08 17:55         ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v5 7/8] fftools: Enable filtergraph printing and update docs softworkz
2025-03-08 17:55         ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v5 8/8] fftools/ffprobe: Rename AVTextFormatContext variables (w => tc) softworkz
2025-03-08 19:30           ` Stefano Sabatini
2025-03-08 20:16         ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v6 0/8] print_graphs: Complete Filtergraph Printing ffmpegagent
2025-03-08 20:16           ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v6 1/8] fftools/textformat: Extract and generalize textformat api from ffprobe.c softworkz
2025-03-08 20:16           ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v6 2/8] fftools/ffprobe: Change to use textformat api softworkz
2025-03-08 20:16           ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v6 3/8] fftools/ffprobe: Rename writer_print_section_* and WriterContext softworkz
2025-03-08 20:16           ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v6 4/8] fftools/ffmpeg_filter: Move some declaration to new header file softworkz
2025-03-08 20:16           ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v6 5/8] avfilter/avfilter: Add avfilter_link_get_hw_frames_ctx() softworkz
2025-03-08 20:16           ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v6 6/8] fftools/ffmpeg_graphprint: Add options for filtergraph printing softworkz
2025-03-08 20:16           ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v6 7/8] fftools: Enable filtergraph printing and update docs softworkz
2025-03-08 20:16           ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v6 8/8] fftools/ffprobe: Rename AVTextFormatContext variables (w => tfc) softworkz

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