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From: Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] avcodec/mlp*: improvements
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 21:59:18 +0200
Message-ID: <CAPYw7P5nnn0u=Ey6ff5eXpSdLmU2C=x2WqftYfwOG-gLJNmhJQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fc13341ccdf0c8a84fe8056b91efe22cee644196.camel@haerdin.se>

On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 9:03 PM Tomas Härdin <git@haerdin.se> wrote:

> On Wed, 2023-10-25 at 21:00 +0200, Paul B Mahol wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 8:39 PM Tomas Härdin <git@haerdin.se> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > >             if (c) {
> > > >                 e[0] = 1 << 14;
> > > >                 e[1] = 0 << 14;
> > > >                 e[2] = v[1];
> > > >                 e[3] = v[0];
> > > >             } else {
> > > >                 e[0] = v[0];
> > > >                 e[1] = v[1];
> > > >                 e[2] = 0 << 14;
> > > >                 e[3] = 1 << 14;
> > > >             }
> > > >
> > > >             if (invert2x2(e, d)) {
> > > >                 sum = UINT64_MAX;
> > > >                 goto next;
> > > >             }
> > > >
> > >
> > > You can make use of the properties of e to simplify calculating the
> > > inverse. The determinant is always v[0]<<14, so you can just do if
> > > (!v[0]) continue; and skip the determinant check altogether.
> > >
> >
> > Even for real 2x2 matrix case? (Once one of rows is not 1, 0) ?
> > May added such cases later.
>
> You can just work the math out on paper. Inverse of
>
>  1     0
>  v[1]  v[0]
>
> is
>
>  1           0
>  -v[1]/v[0]  1/v[0]
>
> not accounting for shifts.
>

But I want to add real 2x2 matrix with no 0 cell, with:

a, b
c, d

later. (even though gains are small, as encoded files use it rarely)


>
> Also RE: my other comments, you are right. I didn't take into account
> that MLP is lossless and that there may be off-by-one errors.
>
> And as I said on IRC you can formulate this as a least squares problem,
> then solve it using a linear system solve. This patch seems finds a
> solution that minimizes L1 rather than L2 though. Not sure what the
> implications of that are compressionwise. What happens if you replace
> FFABS() with a square for scoring?
>

It reduces size usually by less then 0.002 %


Linear system solver gives vectors to create equations for both channels at
same time?


>
> /Tomas
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-25 19:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-25 11:12 Paul B Mahol
2023-10-25 18:39 ` Tomas Härdin
2023-10-25 18:58   ` Paul B Mahol
2023-10-25 19:00   ` Paul B Mahol
2023-10-25 19:03     ` Tomas Härdin
2023-10-25 19:59       ` Paul B Mahol [this message]
2023-10-30 13:14         ` Tomas Härdin
2023-10-30 13:30           ` Paul B Mahol

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