Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] STF 2025

[Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>]

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:53 PM Vittorio Giovara <vittorio.giovara@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:02 PM Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 12:59 PM Vittorio Giovara <
> > vittorio.giovara@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 12:09 PM Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 9:09 AM Vittorio Giovara <
> > > > vittorio.giovara@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 8:55 AM Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 8:53 AM Vittorio Giovara <
> > > > > > vittorio.giovara@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 3:01 AM Cosmin Stejerean via
> ffmpeg-devel
> > <
> > > > > > > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Reposting my question/comment here since Thilo hasn't had a
> > > > chance
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > respond, but shouldn't these kinds of requests go through
> the
> > > GA?
> > > > > If
> > > > > > > > > anybody can do whatever they want with the ffmpeg name,
> then
> > > > what's
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > point of voting and following the established process?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Probably? I'm not actually sure what the process is for
> getting
> > > an
> > > > > > FFmpeg
> > > > > > > > booth at a conference. Is there a documented process
> somewhere
> > > for
> > > > > how
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > should be done? If not this might be a good opportunity to
> > create
> > > > > one.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Agreed, do you have a draft you could share as a base of
> > > discussion?
> > > > > Once
> > > > > > > defined, we could have the GA vote on it
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It might also make for a good topic of discussion at VDD. For
> > how
> > > > > much
> > > > > > > > drama there was about NAB on the list I was surprised there
> was
> > > > zero
> > > > > > > > discussion about it at FOSDEM.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There were probably more important topics to discuss and the
> > > > lingering
> > > > > > hope
> > > > > > > that the problematic points would have been handled better than
> > by
> > > > > > calling
> > > > > > > people trolls
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regarding the "or you" part, I wasn't involved in securing
> > > > > sponsorship
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > NAB or IBC. I did volunteer to help with NAB because I happen
> > to
> > > > live
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > Vegas and I enjoy spending time with other ffmpeg developers.
> > I'm
> > > > > happy
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > help at NAB next year as well should it happen again.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Noted, it should have said "or anybody willing to host/help a
> > > booth"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have no plans to attend IBC and no involvement with the
> FFmpeg
> > > > booth
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > > IBC. I am merely trying to correct the perception that NAB
> was
> > > > > > > > cost-problematic, since no money was paid by the project for
> > NAB.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't think anybody is suggesting that booths are
> > > cost-problematic,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > rather they are lacking in process (one shouldn't allowed use
> > > ffmpeg
> > > > > name
> > > > > > > "just because") and in scope (aka "the why" and what kind of
> > > results
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > expected by investing time in said booth)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Said by prominent LibAV developer.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > reported to CC :)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > CC is fully controlled by prominent LibAV developers.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Not only is this factually incorrect, it's also unrelated to the topic
> at
> > > hand. No worries, this infringement is being reported to the CC as
> well,
> > > but please try to make an effort at doing better at least.
> > > Thank you
> > >
> >
> > Do not trust LibAV developers even when they are giving you gifts.
> >
>
> I'm not giving you anything, please can you stop? I don't want to flood the
> CC with emails, but I'll do so if that helps stifle this kind of behavior.
> Please disconnect, grow up, be nicer to your fellow community members, and
> just do better.
>

Thank you for your arrogant continuous behavior that match nicely with your
latest code contributions.

If you stop responding with mails on all FFmpeg mailing lists from now to
indefinite time in future nothing of value would be lost.



> Thanks
> --
> Vittorio
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