Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Repeat vote: GA voters list updates

[Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>]

On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 2:59 PM Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel <
ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> for privacy reasons I must use JB's quote as given in the archives and
> need to drag this reply up one level. If the addresses in the
> redacted part need to be referred to, they shall be referred to as
> AddressA and AddressB.
>
> I will address more replies once time allows, JB's reply is actually the
> one mail that addresses the cause of this whole mess so I reply to it now
> (asap).
>
> I will also start the repeat vote now and everybody can hold their horses
> before going to flamewar. Depending on JB's explanations, he might still
> prove that the old vote is valid and this repeat vote becomes void. Anyway,
> if he cannot, this needs to follow the given timeframe.
>
> On we go:
>
>
> Am 11.11.23 um 10:54 schrieb Jean-Baptiste Kempf:
> > On Sat, 11 Nov 2023, at 08:22, Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> >> Neither does this list of 51 people [1] correlate to the 54 authorized
> voters
> >> (distinct email addresses) the CIVS system actually counted, see [3].
> >
> > And instead of you ASKING for that, you launch another vote? That's your
> solution?
>
> Very well, then let me ask you to share, even privately if you have
> privacy concerns, the following data that might help to invalidate my
> claims and probably shortcut the whole when what and how questions in the
> other half of the mail:
> - The file(s) you used for the first and second batch. I'd assume you did
> the editing you mention below in the same file, so it's of course
> reasonable if you therefore could only share the one file used for the
> second batch after editing.
> - The mail the poll supervisor gets with the subject like "CIVS poll
> created: <poll name>" so that I can look at the control panel. The mail
> says you should keep it private so nobody can interrupt with the poll in
> progress. The vote is over, results known and a lockfile set so nothing can
> happen anymore to the vote.
>
>
> > Just as as remark, YOU are running the voting system, and have access to
> infra, so YOU can check it.
> >
>
>
> > The answer is simple, Linjie Fu has had several emails in use, (one with
> and one without justin) and one of them is bouncing. I remembered that
> after sending the first batch, so I added it back, knowing that he/she
> could only vote once.
> > Same reason for Ruiling Song who has both an Intel and a gmail email.
> > Finally, in the emails, there was REDACTED FOR GDPR/PRIVACY. It was
> probably the reason.
>
> This is not completely clear to me so let me ask for clarification here as
> well.
>
> The logfile (attached) says:
> The first batch sent out were 53 mails (from 10:11:19 to 10:12:20)
> The second batch sent out were 53 mails (from 10:16:20 to 10:16:48)
> One single mail was sent (at 12:55:40)
> In the end, the counter is at 54.
> In the end, you named 51 distinct people.
>
> So the first batch must have been 53 distinct mail addresses, raising the
> counter from 0 to 53.
> The second batch must also have contained 53 distinct mail addresses
> because 53 mails have been sent.
> After the second batch, the counter must have been at 53 or 54 already,
> depending on wether or not the one single mail that was sent afterwards was
> already in one of the batches or yet another distinct mail address
> (counter++).
>
> What I understand from your simple answer, is you changed two mail
> addresses in between batch one and two (Linjie & Ruiling).
> That would have risen the counter from 53 to 55 after sending the second
> batch because the two corrected addresses are distinct and counted.
> Depending on wether or not the one single mail that was sent afterwards
> was already in one of the batches or yet another distinct mail address
> (counter++),
> the counter would have to be 55 or 56.
>
> Can you clarify what mail addresses you changed from what into what
> between batch one and batch two?
> Can you clarify if the single mail that was sent afterwards was already in
> one of the batches or yet another distinct mail address?
>
>
Thank you for officially killing project.


>
> >
> > And that's why you see 3 more emails than names. And that cannot change
> anything to the vote.
> >
> > jb
> >
>
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