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From: Victor Luchitz <vluchits@gmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] liavcodec: add bit-rate support to RoQ video encoder
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 22:16:18 +0300
Message-ID: <CAOSHGWMmEmaAVswdK-afQ2HrStkbQnmWvmp5p8mZzHCS6GPxNQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <234d897c3d0abb08258aa21ab43047781804f126.camel@haerdin.se>

I've just posted a new version of the patch that addresses most (if not
all) of the comments from previous reviews.

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:10 PM Tomas Härdin <git@haerdin.se> wrote:

> mån 2024-01-22 klockan 21:32 +0300 skrev Victor Luchitz:
> > On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 4:57 PM Tomas Härdin <git@haerdin.se> wrote:
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > >  -    if (frame->quality)
> > > > > > -        enc->lambda = frame->quality - 1;
> > > > > > -    else
> > > > > > -        enc->lambda = 2*ROQ_LAMBDA_SCALE;
> > > > > > +    if (avctx->bit_rate <= ROQ_DEFAULT_MIN_BIT_RATE) {
> > > > > > +        /* no specific bit rate desired, use frame quality
> > > > > > */
> > > > > > +        if (frame->quality)
> > > > > > +            enc->lambda = frame->quality - 1;
> > > > > > +        else
> > > > > > +            enc->lambda = 2*ROQ_LAMBDA_SCALE;
> > > > > > +    }
> > > > >
> > > > > This looks like a bit of a janky way to switch between qscale
> > > > > and
> > > > > bitrate. Isn't there a way to detect whether an option has been
> > > > > set
> > > > > explicitly? At the very least this behavior should be
> > > > > documented in
> > > > > doc/encoders.texi
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Originally, the code just checked for bit_rate !=
> > > > AV_CODEC_DEFAULT_BITRATE,
> > > > which required including options_table.h, which in turn produced
> > > > a
> > > > bunch
> > > > of compilation warnings about certain fields being deprecated.
> > > > None
> > > > of the
> > > > other codecs include that file + many simply check the bit_rate
> > > > field
> > > > against
> > > > magic constants.
> > >
> > > grepping for 200000 didn't reveal anything like that. Do you have a
> > > specific example of an encoder that does this?
> > >
> >
> > ~/ffmpeg/libavcodec# grep -RI bit_rate . | grep 000 | grep -v 1000 |
> > wc -l
> > 38
>
> Most of these seem to revolve around sane defaults, picking various
> submodes or rejecting too high or too low bitrates
>
>
> > Most of the cases here are comparisons against magic constants
> > without
> > any comments about how they were chosen or what they do, none
> > whatsoever.
>
> I would suggest adding a different default as Martin suggests. If users
> really want shitty encodes I see no reason to deny them. I could see it
> being useful for modders.
>
> You might want an option for the tolerance stuff too
>
> /Tomas
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 Victor Luchitz
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-22 19:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-21 21:08 Victor Luchits
2024-01-22 13:05 ` Tomas Härdin
2024-01-22 13:38   ` Victor Luchitz
2024-01-22 13:57     ` Tomas Härdin
2024-01-22 13:59       ` Martin Storsjö
2024-01-22 14:19         ` Tomas Härdin
2024-01-22 16:36           ` Victor Luchitz
2024-01-22 16:21         ` Victor Luchitz
2024-01-22 18:32       ` Victor Luchitz
2024-01-22 19:10         ` Tomas Härdin
2024-01-22 19:16           ` Victor Luchitz [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-01-22 19:14 Victor Luchits
2024-01-22 21:12 ` Tomas Härdin
2024-01-22 21:40   ` Victor Luchitz
2024-01-22 23:25     ` Tomas Härdin
2024-01-22 22:39 ` epirat07
2024-01-21 20:19 Victor Luchits
2024-01-21 21:02 ` Michael Niedermayer

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